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Plan to give iPads to kindergartners met with approval and cost questions
Bangor Daily News ^ | 04/07/2011 | By Bonnie Washuk, Sun Journal

Posted on 04/08/2011 10:51:03 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker
I actually think it is a good idea except for taxes paying for them. When my 2 great granddaughters were 1 and 2, they learned to turn on their grandmother's iPad, select the game or book they wanted, etc. They are 2 and 3 now and love the iPad. They are learning their letters and numbers, what matches, and what comes next. There are some wonderful programs out there for pre- schoolers. Of course, they do not sit around all day “playing” with it.
21 posted on 04/09/2011 1:20:55 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: truthfreedom

Intel has such a program, with specially designed programs written right through high school.


22 posted on 04/09/2011 1:22:21 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Greysard

Obviously you’ve never played an RPG, where you need to remember a small clue from 50 hours a go and put all the pieces together to figure out how to beat the fame.


23 posted on 04/09/2011 1:26:16 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
what needs to be done is for the games to be designed to teaach kids something

That's right.

I suppose I wouldn't oppose this attempted reliance on computers in schools if the software were well-designed. I suspect, though, (as mentioned above) that they're just expensive substitutes for flash cards and chalkboards.

24 posted on 04/09/2011 1:54:05 AM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: BfloGuy

Most educational software programs don’t teach the reasons why an answer is the correct one. It’s either correct or it’s not, but there’s no rhyme or reason for it being so.

I think that well designed educational software holds great promise. You should be able to learn just about anything through university or trade.

However, I think the issue just needs to be studied more. From what I can see, they know how to create software that has the information, but presenting it so the student learns from it is very poorly designed.


25 posted on 04/09/2011 2:14:47 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Swordmaker

We should be doing what India and China are doing, namely, NOT handimg out ipads!


26 posted on 04/09/2011 4:06:36 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Jonty30

I love computers but could not agree more.


27 posted on 04/09/2011 4:07:54 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Jonty30; Greysard; truthfreedom; BfloGuy
Actually video games is a perfect medium to teach. Kids will play video games for days on end, if we let them.
However, what needs to be done is for the games to be designed to teaach kids something.
I bought a program to teach the ability to hear the difference between two notes and know the interval between them. That's something very good to know if you try to sing sheet music, but is easy to learn during early childhood, and much more difficult afterward (which is also true for language learning . . .).

I couldn't gain much from the pedagogy of that program at my age, unfortunately. But I couldn't help thinking that a video game could be constructed to teach that subliminally. If you foreshadowed what was coming next in the game by notes with the interval you wanted to teach, the player of the game would learn to anticipate what was coming next, without necessarily knowing what they were learning. All it would take to construct that would be a modification to the sound in an existing video game . . .

But it's not obvious that buying iPads for kindergarteners is either necessary or sufficient to accomplish that.

28 posted on 04/09/2011 4:36:08 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Or, in a game setting, or one note signifying that your sim-uncle wants to talk to you and another note means your sim-mom wants to talk to you and you only get it right if you can tell the difference 100 percent of the time.

Sim games are very good at developing specific skills. For example, you could type into a game the sort of mechanical problem you were having and the game could teach you how to fix the problem.

I used to have some trouble driving, but the hand-eye coordination used in Gran Turismo helped immensely. Now if I can only do something about all the speeding tickets I got.


29 posted on 04/09/2011 5:02:35 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: truthfreedom; Swordmaker
Maybe swordmaker can explain why kindergardeners can’t use the $86 generic android tablet

I think Swordmaker just posted the article, I don't think he made the purchasing decision.

I agree, a cheaper version seems much more reasonable to me - for a bunch of 5 year olds. If I had a 5-yr-old, I imagine they would have an iPad2...but my 17 & 15 year olds don't (but they do have their own macs).

30 posted on 04/09/2011 5:04:53 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: ransomnote

Near-sighted by age 13. Boon for the eye glass industry.


31 posted on 04/09/2011 5:05:37 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Jonty30

Because educators are lazy these days. Just like everything else, they are not held accountable for kids that fail.


32 posted on 04/09/2011 5:06:51 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Swordmaker

How idiotic. Bring back the one-room schoolhouse. Ban unions. Bar computers. Schools in rural India without running water are outperforming American kids in $10 million high-tech Elementary schools. This technology fetish is just a big distraction from the basics of reading, math and civics.


33 posted on 04/09/2011 5:08:30 AM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: Nat Turner; metmom
the instructional quality that passes for education today is so weak that just about anyone home schooling their child could to better!
The $200,000 cost for the iPad 2 tablets will be less than hiring more teachers, she said. “It probably would take four teachers to do what the computers can do with one teacher.”
. . . or, given the right software, you could just use the iPad to teach your own kid at home with no teachers.

34 posted on 04/09/2011 5:19:00 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: Swordmaker

So what happens when the IPAD gets upgraded, will the school board demand they all get thrown out and replaced at taxpayer expense.


35 posted on 04/09/2011 5:23:35 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: castlegreyskull

Pencil, paper, compass, protractor and McGuffey Readers.

Oh, yes. And a competent teacher.


36 posted on 04/09/2011 5:27:26 AM PDT by IbJensen (Grab your pitchforks!)
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To: Swordmaker

Like most education initiatives, this is insane. The problem with children and education is that we have stupid and permissive parents and stupid and permissive education officials, unions and government. Giving kindergarten children computers isn’t going to address any sort of need of problem other than give Apple a great big slice of the tax pie.

Consider that most computer use in the job world centers on three basic functions: word processing (typing), some kind of spread sheet and power point presentations. Most people can come up to speed with these things inside of a few months. Instead, we unquestioningly default to the use of more technology as an unchallenged solution to our social and economic ills. Rubbish, I say.

I’m going to start printing bumperstickers that say: ‘My homeschooled kid can still kick your publik skooled kid’s @ss - without a computer!’


37 posted on 04/09/2011 5:35:23 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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Superintendent Tom Morrill said he would work diligently to pay for the iPads privately through grants or donations. Only if that fails will money in the budget be used, he said

Anyone want to bet on it "failing?" For that matter if they have that much money in the "budget" how about REDUCING the budget and lessening the tax bite on the people who pay for these pipe dreams? Out of one person's pocket into another, the idiocy of squandering tax dollars on frivoloties never stops.

38 posted on 04/09/2011 5:51:31 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

in a perfect work C-I-C they would, FIRE the sorry ones and replace THEM with iPads... LOL


39 posted on 04/09/2011 7:40:16 AM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: Swordmaker; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

40 posted on 04/09/2011 9:54:11 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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