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To: r9etb
rail guns cannot put anything into orbit.

Lasers would be the best choice. Rail guns would be a good solution in low gravity/thin atmo situations. When I wrote that I wasn't thinking about the problems with using rail guns out of a deep gravity well with dense atmo. I assume that is why you say rail guns can't put anything into orbit.

57 posted on 03/28/2011 8:19:46 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: 6ppc
I assume that is why you say rail guns can't put anything into orbit.

Lasers can't put anything into orbit, either.

Either could (theoretically, neglecting the problems with being a burning ball of plasma) launch something to orbit altitude, which is not the same as putting something into orbit. The problem is that you've got to apply another large delta-V at some point and in the right direction, to actually put the vehicle in orbit.

Best case from the flaming ball of plasma perspective is to launch straight up -- which happens also to be the worst case from the perspective of applying a delta-V to put the thing actually into orbit.

Best case from a delta-V perspective has you launching at a pretty low elevation angle, which roughly doubles the amount of atmosphere you'd have to be a flaming ball of plasma in.

Assuming you surmount that problem, there's still the problem of getting the water from where you put it in orbit, to a position where it can be loaded into your space ship (which, in a practical sense, means your target vehicle will have to do the rendezvous).

You've no doubt spotted the fly in the ointment here: how much delta-V (and how much propellant) will have to be expended just to fuel your water-powered space ship?

58 posted on 03/28/2011 8:52:05 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: 6ppc
Oh, and I notice also that the authors tout the benefits of using their water fuel as radiation shielding. The problem being, of course, that your passengers experience increasing radiation as you blow your shielding out the nozzle.....

Note, too, this little nugget:

McConnell envisions space coaches cruising around the solar system, each individual vehicle fueling up with water in low-Earth orbit when the need arises. In the future, fuel could be sourced along a space coach's travels — for example, water could be mined from an asteroid or a Martian moon.

Yup .... all you've got to do, is just pop out of that interplanetary trajectory, down into Low Earth Orbit; or, into the orbit of an asteroid or a Martian moon.....

How? Does our author understand the orbital mechanics of his "simple" solution?

59 posted on 03/28/2011 9:03:03 AM PDT by r9etb
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