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To: ml/nj

I see it completely the opposite way.

I believe it is the Confederate democrats who have destroyed the Consitution they fought to secede from back then. If they loved the Constitution formed by the Founders so much then why did they just want to pronounce that it wasn’t their Constitution anymore and fight for that right? Why not work towards using the process provided by the Founders to uplift this nation? Instead they chose to rebel and fight a Civil war. They never stopped rebelling either after the Civil war and just went on to new tactics as the Progressive democrats.

I see Lincoln as having to fight a war in order to try and preserve the great government created by our Founders.

I see the Confederate democrats as traitors who sought to undermine the great Founding of this nation.


115 posted on 03/20/2011 12:07:45 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf
I see it completely the opposite way.

You might. But you would not be correct.

Several years ago when I sat in on a three hour Politics of the Civil War class (Great Class!) at an Ivy, I made the statement during the discussion that I have made here: that Lincoln destroyed the government bequeathed to us by Jefferson and Madison. The professor mostly let it go during the class. But during a private 20 minute discussion afterward he confided that he could not write the things I was saying during the class and remain part of the Civil War Academic Community. About Lincoln destroying the government, his comment was, "We, he had help." We agreed that maybe Wilson and FDR did help a little, but that both probably took their cues from Lincoln.

ML/NJ

117 posted on 03/20/2011 12:21:06 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: TheBigIf
The Civil war was fought over money, specifically taxes. Every war is fought over money when you get right down to it.

What is the Tea Party about? Yes, money, more specifically, taxes. Are they rebelling against the Establishment? Yes and if we don't start seeing some changes toward following the Constitution. Don't be surprised if we might just see a war about it. I hope not but I won't be surprised if we do.

Have you ever heard of 70 year old John Burns, the Gettysburg civilian who fought in the Civil war? He's one of my heroes because he showed everyone that even an old man can fight back for what he believes in. There's a full-length biography that sorts out fact from fiction, covering how he was wounded, captured and survived to become a national celebrity; how he received a personal thanks from Abraham Lincoln; how Congress passed a special act granting him a pension; and much more.

129 posted on 03/20/2011 2:44:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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