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It Took Humans Many Chilly Millennia to Master Fire
Live Science ^ | March 14, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 03/14/2011 8:42:49 PM PDT by decimon

Early humans may have moved north into the chilly latitudes of Europe hundreds of thousands of years before mastering a crucial technology: Fire.

A survey of 141 archaeological sites in Europe found no evidence of habitual use of fire prior to about 400,000 years ago. Early humans arrived much earlier. Some archeological evidence indicates they arrived in southern Europe more than a million years ago, and the Happisburgh site in the northeastern part of England's Norfolk region contains stone tools dating back more than 800,000 years ago.

Evidence for the use of fire – concentrations of ashes and charcoal, sediments reddened by heat, rocks scarred by heat and burned bones – is nonexistent in Europe until around 400,000 years ago, write the researchers Wil Roebroeks of Leiden University in The Netherlands and Paola Villa of the University of Colorado Museum in Boulder.

The earliest possible evidence of fire comes from two sites that date back to that time, they write. These are located in Schöningen, Germany (where heated stone and charred wood, including a wooden tool, have been found) and the Beeches Pit in England (where archaeologists have uncovered evidence of ancient fireplaces). The sites containing strong evidence of fire, 119 total, are all believed to have been occupied by Neanderthals.

The researchers' conclusion is controversial, because others have put early humans' mastery of fire earlier in our history, as long ago as 2 million years. What's more, fire is widely thought to have made the transition northward — into areas where the temperature dropped below freezing — possible.

Richard Wrangham, of Harvard University, has argued that by making cooking possible, the use of fire allowed our ancestors to evolve larger, more calorie-hungry brains and bodies, and smaller guts suited for more easily digested food.

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To: little jeremiah

this video shows making a brick stove and then mudding it over (it could then be portable):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH8Qkpbotvg

more stoves:

http://solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Rocket_Stove

the 16-brick stove video is towards the bottom


21 posted on 03/14/2011 10:08:30 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Peanut Gallery

Salamanders gave humans fire.

Prometheus just grabbed the glory.

:)


22 posted on 03/14/2011 10:17:36 PM PDT by Salamander (I may be lonely but I'm never alone...and the nights may pass me by......but I never cry.)
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To: blueplum

Thank you. I will bookmark ‘em.


23 posted on 03/14/2011 10:18:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: blueplum

Excellent educational material. Good info for survivalists if things get really crazy.

I like Sterno for hiking and short-term camping. However, long-term survival means making do with what’s available (and what you had in your bug-out kit, LOL).

Thanks for calling attention to forgotten skills. I wonder if anyone’s done a thread on various ways of finding water sources (in the wild, so to speak) and to purify water from suspect sources.

I seem to recall a survivalist thread, but I can’t find it, now - always good info to know.


24 posted on 03/14/2011 11:21:56 PM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom!! It's not just another word.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Surely this exposes you, one way or another.


25 posted on 03/14/2011 11:30:23 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: blueplum

Wait - I found one:

Survival Kits For Our Upcoming “Future”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2685093/posts


26 posted on 03/14/2011 11:30:54 PM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom!! It's not just another word.)
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To: decimon

I don’t believe this, human were smart even at the beginning of creation (maybe even more intelligent than us).


27 posted on 03/15/2011 4:16:45 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh it did not.


28 posted on 03/15/2011 5:05:21 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Matchett-PI

Very good. Is that you?


29 posted on 03/15/2011 5:08:18 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: null and void

Yep, we live in a world of lost knowledge.


30 posted on 03/15/2011 5:28:05 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
"Very good. Is that you?"

Thank you. No it isn't me, I just like to read his blog every day because he's one who likes to think outside the box and has a great sense of humor, to boot.

31 posted on 03/15/2011 5:31:10 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Matchett-PI

I’ve bookmarked him - that’s a rare combination - and thanks for sharing.


32 posted on 03/15/2011 5:39:07 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

You’re welcome! But beware! He grows on you. :)


33 posted on 03/15/2011 6:15:54 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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BFLV


34 posted on 03/15/2011 8:35:11 AM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: dr_lew

Yes, it exposes the fact that I reject arbitrary and capricious babbling nonsense.


35 posted on 03/15/2011 8:47:26 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: little jeremiah
I like the sound of one that uses twigs.

Then you;ll probably like these stoves.

http://www.zzstove.com/

36 posted on 03/15/2011 12:24:50 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: little jeremiah

Or these.

http://www.occuk.co.uk/outdoor/fire-spout-100.htm


37 posted on 03/15/2011 12:29:09 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: BIGLOOK

:’)


38 posted on 03/15/2011 7:12:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Obviously our ancestors were making this harder than it really was. All they had to do was discover the missionary position with Rae Dong Chong and she would show ‘em how to make fire.
39 posted on 03/16/2011 2:37:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

:’)


40 posted on 03/16/2011 3:26:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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