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Motorists illegally detained at Florida tolls - for using large bills!
wtsp.com ^ | 3-5-11 | Mike Deeson

Posted on 03/06/2011 3:35:10 AM PST by rawhide

Meet Joel Chandler,who just paid his $1.00 toll on the Polk Parkway with a $100 bill,he is not allowed to leave unless he provides personal info to the toll taker.The toll taker tells Chandler this is what happens when they get large bills.

Chandler says to the toll taker,"So I'm being detained?"She says yes sir.

It is a policy the Florida Turnpike authority instituted for people who paid with $20,$50 or$100 bills. After it happened once,Chandler kept testing the system and taped his encounters as he went through the toll booths.

One time a toll taker told him, she wouldn't give him his change unless he gave her the information. He asked why he was being detained but never got an answer.

When Chandler called and e-mailed the Florida Department of Transportation to complain about the policy, he was told there is no policy to detain people who give large bills.

The practice continued at toll booth after toll booth and, if someone refused to provide the information, they were threatened with arrest. One toll taker told Chandler's brother Robert, "I could call FHP. Would you like me to do that, sir?" Robert Chandler asked why she would call the Florida Highway Patrol when he was being illegally detained and the toll taker said he could come up with another form of tender.

Chandler continued to complain and on July 21st at 7:19 p.m., he received an email from the assistant General Counsel of FDOT saying essentially the department didn't know what he was talking about and they don't have sufficient information to investigate. However, earlier that same day, there were a flurry of e-mails going back and forth in the department saying shut the program down, temporarily suspend it and who should call Chandler and what should they say.

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TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Travel
KEYWORDS: booth; donutwatch; florida; motorists; toll
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To: abb

I have a dumb phone, no GPS. If I did have a phone with GPS, it would be turned off, as I have a much better and bigger GPS unit on my windshield.


21 posted on 03/06/2011 4:14:27 AM PST by rawhide
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To: hadaclueonce

They don’t take credit cards. If you make the mistake of getting on a toll road without any cash, you’re screwed. You have to stop at a booth and tell them your situation, and then they give you an address to send the toll to to prevent getting a much larger bill. You have to send cash or check.


22 posted on 03/06/2011 4:21:37 AM PST by RightFighter (Now back to my war station.)
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To: rawhide

I was just on that road last week. If only I had known how much fun I could have had if only I had tried to pay with a $100 bill.


23 posted on 03/06/2011 4:25:24 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: Bluebird Singing

The letter was from by license plate, I didnt have an e-pass at that time.


24 posted on 03/06/2011 4:26:08 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rawhide

More evidence of the need for far fewer public “servants.”


25 posted on 03/06/2011 4:31:51 AM PST by TPOOH (I wish I could have been Jerry Reed.)
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To: rawhide

Something about “legal tender for all debts, public and private”. What part of “all” do you not understand?


26 posted on 03/06/2011 4:32:33 AM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: driftdiver

Take a picture of a dollar bill and send it back to them.

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27 posted on 03/06/2011 4:35:17 AM PST by flatfish
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To: cripplecreek

I’m more pissed at the corruption involved with our toll roads.


28 posted on 03/06/2011 4:36:49 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rawhide

I think they can still triangulate on a regular cell phone and determine location of the cell phone, in some areas at least. Ever heard of that?


29 posted on 03/06/2011 4:37:48 AM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: rawhide

Another reason to dispense with these overpaid glorified cashiers.


30 posted on 03/06/2011 4:42:52 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: rawhide

TX DOT Spent at least 30K to build a toll booth west of the Taylor Texas Airport to try to figure out how to position cameras to beat the toll booth runners who have figured out how to “train” through booths.

It is pretty funny, vehicles toting UHAUL trailers spend all day driving through the booth.


31 posted on 03/06/2011 4:45:07 AM PST by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: Big E

NJ did ticket on turnpike by time of entrance to time of departure in the early 50’s. I had a cousin in the Air Force stationed at Stuart {sp} AFB near Newburgh NY. He traveled a good bit as he was in charge of food inspectors for supplies purchased by military in that region, also base Vet. He drove very fast and always threw entry ticket away and paid for travel to longest point of travel. Also did a lot of hops one refueling from SAFB, and back and forth to Alabama.


32 posted on 03/06/2011 4:48:13 AM PST by TweetEBird007
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To: jennings2004

just get an att phone they’ll never find ya. of course you can’t call anyone either.


33 posted on 03/06/2011 4:49:07 AM PST by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: rawhide

It is illegal according to Federal law not to accept his bills no matter what the size. Written right on every bill are these words, “legal tender for all debts public and private.”


34 posted on 03/06/2011 4:50:22 AM PST by stockpirate (Underemployment, surged in February to 19.9%)
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To: rawhide
Maybe voters should stop electing and reelecting politicians that allow toll roads to exist. Or, maybe Florida should only hire people who can actually make change? They don't like big bills because they dont have enough fingers & toes to count how much change you're supposed to get! EXACT CHANGE PLEASE...
35 posted on 03/06/2011 4:53:04 AM PST by 2dollarbill
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To: rawhide

Anyone who lived in the NY/NJ area in the pre-EZPass era knows that the toll workers were always a bottleneck on the highways.

I despise EZPass because it made taxation simple, easy and efficient, like payroll deductions.

However, not having an EZPass is crazy if you travel these roads frequently.

I would prefer a focus on eliminating toll roads.

We pay enough in fuel taxes that our roads and bridges should be world-class!


36 posted on 03/06/2011 4:53:17 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: abb

It doesn’t matter if you have GPS in your phone. I worked as a contractor to BellSouth Mobility in mid 90’s on a system that would track a phone by cell tower if the phone was turned on. Not as accurate as GPS but it could tell you a lot about where people were going and what cities they went visited.


37 posted on 03/06/2011 4:58:47 AM PST by atom99
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To: RightFighter

Returning to the Denver Airport I mistakenly exited prematurely without paying, realized my mistake and informed the agent at the next exit so I could pay it. He refused and told me, for some odd reason that this was done when I returned my rental car; at Budget, they said they knew nothing about it, and only provided me with an (800) number to call. Long story short, after returning home I wound up having to pay $8.00- 8x the toll.


38 posted on 03/06/2011 5:02:07 AM PST by philoctetes
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To: driftdiver

In our wonderful State of Illinois (NOT) they’ve doubled the cost when passing through a toll if you have cash vs going through with an I-Pass.

Pretty effective way of promoting the I-Pass.


39 posted on 03/06/2011 5:02:30 AM PST by thatjoeguy (Wind is just air, but pushier.)
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To: rawhide
“I have a dumb phone, no GPS. If I did have a phone with GPS, it would be turned off, as I have a much better and bigger GPS unit on my windshield.”

Your phone can be used to track you whether you want it to or not. Quite deliberately, the only way you can reliably turn off that ability is to turn off your phone and remove the battery. Here is a link and an excerpt of an article explaining it:

http://www.ehow.com/about_5291861_pros-tracking-devices-cellular-phones.html

Since the mid 2000s, the vast majority of cell phones manufactured and sold in the United States have included tracking capabilities. This is the result of legislation passed after the terrorist attacks in New York City, Washing ton, D.C. and Shanksville, Pennsylvania on September 11, 2001. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) mandated that all cell phones must have this capability in order to make it possible to trace emergency calls. However, the result of this legislation has had consequences far beyond its intended purpose, with both good and bad effects.

How Personal Tracking Works With Cell Phones
1. Tracking someone using a cell phone works in much the same way as a Global Positioning System (GPS) device. The person's location is calculated in relationship to the known locations of a given provider's cell phone towers or GPS satellites. This can be accomplished with a high degree of accuracy, within several feet. This is true whether the phone has specialized GPS technology installed or not. Since most people carry their cell phones with them and leave them on most if not all the time, using a cell phone as a personal tracking device can be very reliable.

40 posted on 03/06/2011 5:04:56 AM PST by marktwain
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