Posted on 01/22/2011 10:24:53 AM PST by Bigtigermike
I'm sick and tire some on our side buying into the myth that if we just "rise above the fray" from attacks that are scurrilous and baseless that we will somehow win the arguments against us! That's pure bull!
We are playing right into the hands of the MSM and liberals when we act civil and honorable "according to their rules of acting civil and honorable" which is to shut up and sit down about conservatism and not fight back. The only kind of people that the left and MSM consider honorable are people like Bob Dole and John McCain both of whom lost by not fighting.
Speaking of McCain, notice how 'civil' he was in 2008 "[Senator Obama] is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared about as President of the United States,". There's a difference between rhetoric and record, but you can still be respectful," McCain said to one questioner. "I will point out his record and I will do it with respect."
Did Obama act respectful and civil? Linking President Bush and Senator John McCain as partners in “the failed policies” of the past seven years and criticizing them for “hypocrisy, fear peddling, fear mongering.”? "They're going to try to make you afraid of me. They're going to say you know what, "He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. Did I mention he's black?"
The MSM called McCain's rallies vitriolic and tinged with racism and hateful but said that Obama has run a clean, non-slanderous campaign and deserves respect. He is the one that wishes to address the issues and look how wonderful Obama is, he will help heal the nation.!!!
What happened in 2008 is almost happening in 2011 with the attacks on Sarah over the Tucson attacks; Barack Obama stood back for days and let his supporters in the media and left rip Palin apart, only then to proclaim that we don't really know what happened in Tuscon and let the media narrative was how wonderful Obama is!
But this time Sarah fought back after a few days and only had a few choice towards the media, and the left and media STILL ATTACKED HER OVER IT'!
If all the others here or pundits like Dick Morris or even FOX NEWS are gonna sit around and watch this happen and say "don't do nothing" or be tepid in a response at best then they need a brain analysis. If Conservatives cannot defend themselves over these baseless, libelous charges then they got no business running. period!
Hey my FRiend how are you?
See there you are with the whining accusation. I am just not into worship of politicos no matter what they do. They will always disappoint. The worship of Palin around FR has reached idolatry for some who also claim to be God fearing people.
GingisK, Stay on your WUSS/CRYING level.
Bigtigermike has the B@lls to say what NEEDS to be said. You & Speaker John Boehner BONER need to grow a set if you want to fight the RATS!
RINOs all think alike & they are more dangerous than the RATs because they will sell conservatives out to the RATs in a heartbeat.
Look at what the McStains tried to do to Palin. She's got a pair. GingisK should learn from her.
Kick the RATs till they're down, then kick the hell outa them!
If conservatives want to be in last place ALL the time, follow GingisK.
Was that too harsh? Sniffle, Sniffle, (adjusting panties)! /s
Thumb pad is almost healed. Middle finger . . . nail will possibly not grow back on right 1/8th inch. Still a bit red at base 1/2 inch; scabbed over; keep it dry and unbandaged most of the time. Even have used the table saw again. LOL.
Just got the VA kit for a colonoscopy in March. Oh Thrill.
Otherwise, class is going well. Good students—seem motivated, good sense of humor, cooperative. bright. Yea.
Planning to go through CLEANSING STREAMS beginning Feb. No, that’s NOT the colonoscopy! LOL. It’s a Christian deliverance/inner healing process over 3 months with a retreat at the end.
Would rather be in Heaven but doing my bit part here in the mean time.
Making the usual noise where it seems fitting. Hugging and loving on people otherwise.
HOW ABOUT YOU AND YOURS?
You tough knuckle-draggers talk nice and tough, but its all tough talk and no ACTION! So, don't crap on me just because I can truthfully point out that your belligerence is ineffective.
In terms you understand, "Bite the pipe, you bird-brained buffoon".
NO! Beck merely proved that while
George Washington COULD do so
he did not 100% ALWAYS do so.
Thats true, and we don’t have to do it 100% of the time either, but from time to time (and I think in response to the AZ attacks on us) it can be very effective.
BTW, he didn’t just quote GW, he quoted a bunch of FFs.
Whining accusation? No, my friend. That was an ironclad indictment. You made a blatantly hypocritical statement at post #133, and now you're protesting because I called you on it.
You don't have to "worship" Palin to refrain from hurling ad hominems at her. If you really want to raise the standard of discourse on this forum (as you claim), then you should lead by example.
Glad to hear you are healing well.
Everything here is great.
No cult followers get a pass from me here anymore.
Romneybots.
Bushbots.
Palinistas.
TEA crocks.
Paulbots.
Mormon excusers.
Catholic apologists.
The instant attack on anyone who questions their form of political or god religion is drawn and quartered - screw em.
So, you really are a hypocrite. Instead of simply admitting to what you clearly did, you'd rather do the denial dance and double down on your indefensible comment.
Have it your way, but you own it now.
I never denied I owned it. So what?
So what? You've totally failed to do anything but make a bunch of noise defending your hypocrisy, that's what.
You want the level of discourse on this site to be elevated, then lead by example.
Wellllllllll
I think I’ve earned my stripes on FR as a fairly fierce pontificator. LOL.
I can do so in groups and face to face about as forcefully, sometimes more so.
Good. I forget what region you’re in??? I hope at a higher elevation, regardless!
I certainly understand those seDiments and share much in common with them.
Thx.
In terms you understand, "Bite the pipe, you bird-brained buffoon.""
"Bite the pipe...... Bite the pipe?" WOW! Now that's some tough talk'n pardner. Someone better clean your mouth out W/soap and this is going on your permanent record.
You better put on some clean panties. Sounds like you soiled yourself trying to come up W/a real mean insult....Pfff!
So, you want to have civil discourse and reach across the aisle in a spirit of bipartisanship and compromise....eh. Well tell me Mr.buffoonafobe, when talking to a Commie, where would you compromise? Would you allow Commies to enslave only half the country? When the Commies come for your family, would you negotiate which of your children go to the Gulag? For abortion advocates, would a happy compromise be if they only slice a leg and arm off? If terrorists want to nuke this country, would you reach across the aisle to allow them one or two cities? Would you have have civil discourse W/Jesse Jackson who is nothing more than a extortionist?
So, you'll work within the system and use well articulated language. Let's see you do that with the Muzzies who are attempting to bring Sharia law to this country! Tell me which part of Sharia law you think the Muzzies will meet you half way on? Oh, and by-the-way in case you haven't noticed playing nice W/Muzzies is all the rage W/the liberal elite. Sharia law IS going to be codified here soon, mark my words.
Try your well articulated language on those drunken illegals who kill/rape Innocent people every day while Washington looks the other way or prosecutes the border agents attempting to stop the flood of criminals. Yes, that's right, you TALK to the illegals and their criminal governments.
"You tough knuckle-draggers talk nice and tough, Anytime you want to have a real shooting civil war to turn the tide, go ahead and start it. I'll join that fracas." I doubt you'll be there, since "Bite the pipe". seems to be all you have on your mind!
Since I haven't seen you on the news, I can only assume that you are not yet in open rebellion ... and that only means that you are still talking politics. I don't like the opposition in this Nation and their destructive affect anymore that you do. We are going to work within the system until the leftist do the shooting or start any roundups, and we all know that. I am sure that rational and settled conversation will have a better chance of making some headway with the loonies than their style of diatribe. We both know that talk won't be that effective, especially in the short run. The root cause of our circumstances is that we were too busy to mind the store, and let a lot of rot set into the system. Already there is a bit of progress against the creeping crud. As time passes we will all see if the system works. In the meantime, talk is all we have to sway folks from the other side, as daunting as that task truly is ... and as hopeless as it probably is. Still, some sort of intellectual conversation is bound to have a better chance at success than conservative people foaming at the mouth and having epileptic fits.
Mr Buffoonafobe! That is precious! I got a real kick out of that one. Careful, I see a sense of humor rearing its head. I can do really well at foul language myself; however, I don't want to get kicked off the site.
All of the problems with the parties you mentioned are very real and will destroy our Nation. Once we regain charge of the system and install some more adults in high places we will be able to work through those. I don't have any problem whatsoever using ultimate destructive force on enemies. In fact, I can't figure out why we are rebuilding and reconditioning Iraq. That is a waste of precious American blood. We need to send those places back to the stone age and then let them dig themselves out of the rubble. (You really don't want me in charge. I prefer the utter destruction of enemies to diplomacy any day of the week, especially on Sunday.)
Actually, no. I'm sure you've seen that Communist "Things To Do" list related to taking our Nation down. Included in that list was tarnishing the reputation of the Founders, control of the educational system, amplification of America's darker spots in history, and so on. They played that list like a violin while we slept.
We need to be coming up with lists just like that one so that we can set about a coordinated and well orchestrated effort to restore our Nation to what it is supposed to be. It would include reversing the rot within the schools, educating The People about the true affect of Constitutional rule, restoration of personal responsibility, and so on. Conservatives must have a better plan than the Commies did when they wrecked this Nation.
We also need communications plans so that if the SHTF we will be able to act in unison even though THEY take down the Internet and foul other modern communications facilities.
This is a real crisis, and I don't see a lot of crisis planning on our part. I do see some infighting that dismays me a great deal. How about we just stop this shit and start digging toward the light together?
Please see #298. I sometimes can’t see the front sights.
Please see #298. (I still can’t see the front sights.)
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