[decimon]

Ping

[Cisco Nix]

Tumeric

[calex59]

Horse sh**. Just another attempt to turn people into vegans.

[Does so]

Not for all kidney diseases: A diet to reduce kidney stone formation includes only the vegetables corn, peas, carrots, potato, and lima beans.

[fullchroma]

My magnificent yellow tabby isn’t happy to hear this.

[SunkenCiv]

Phosphorous levels plummet in kidney disease patients who stick to a vegetarian diet...

...Gotta be Israel's fault that phosphorous levels were high in the first place. /sarc

Thanks decimon.

• FDA gets new powers with food safety bill

[buck61]

Some Seventh Day Adventist I know have known this Veg. diet for Kidney Disease for years. Am I Adventist? no, but I have no problem with their beliefs.

[FreedomGuru]

“Individuals with kidney disease cannot adequately rid the body of phosphorus, which is found in dietary proteins and is a common food additive.”

True but the leading source of phosphorus is dairy, beans, nuts, some grains, and processed foods. Vegetables and fruit also are the leading sources of potassium, which also those with kidney disease can’t get rid of it, without dialysis. Again potassium is used as an additive in processed foods. The real culprit is processed foods. A person on dialysis has to replace lost protein, it can be done on a vegan diet but is difficult without the aid of phosphorus binders.

“Disclosures: Sharon Moe is a consultant and has received honoraria and/or grant support from Shire, Genzyme, and Ineos, makers of phosphate binders. “

Bingo.

“her colleagues studied the effects of vegetarian and meat-based diets on phosphorous levels in nine patients with CKD. Patients followed a vegetarian or meat-based diet for one week, followed by the opposite diet two-to four- weeks later. Blood and urine tests were performed at the end of each week on both diets.”

An awfully small test group and short time to determine anything.

[Born Conservative]

Interesting. It’s a huge challenge lowering phosphorous intake when going through Chronic Renal Failure. Just look at food labels; many prepared foods now have some kind of phosphorous additive (it will have “phos” in it’s name).

My dietician while I was on dialysis used to ponder what type of problems this will have in the future for healthy people without kidney problems. (excess intake in those with chronic renal failure sucks calcium out of the bones and into the bloodstream, causing bone weakness and plaques in the arteries)