To: Kevmo
Black Light has been making this claim for decades and have also claimed independent verification in the past. They claim to be able to violate the laws of quantum physics. Their jobs posting for their chief engineer calls for experience in procuring government grants. That is their real goal of course. Nuff said.
12 posted on
12/20/2010 2:13:50 AM PST by
saganite
(What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
To: saganite
Black Light has been making this claim for decades and have also claimed independent verification in the past.
***Then feel free to refute it. I don’t have enough background. Their website claims ~80 peer reviewed papers, including this one highlighted in the article, so if this was pure hogwash they wouldn’t be getting published.
They claim to be able to violate the laws of quantum physics.
***Just like Einstein & his buddies a hundred years ago were claiming to violate the laws of Newtonion Physics. You’ve heard of Einstein, haven’t you? The process of science is so convoluted that Einstein didn’t even get his Nobel Prize for relativity theory, it was for something else.
Their jobs posting for their chief engineer calls for experience in procuring government grants. That is their real goal of course.
***If that’s what they want to do, then that’s how things are. You can’t blame a farmer for selling cheese to ghe guvmint if that’s what pays his bills; well, you can because we’re a conservative site, but that’s just politics. The point is he has cheese to sell. There’s $Billions of guvmint money available for nuclear research, and yet for all that $$$ we’ve thrown at hot fusion, we got zip so far.
Nuff said.
***Not nearly nuff said. If this guy Dr. Mills is so far off his rocker, the website for blacklightisafraud.com should be easy enough to find.
16 posted on
12/20/2010 2:24:54 AM PST by
Kevmo
(Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
To: saganite; Kevmo
Black Light has been making this claim for decades and have also claimed independent verification in the past. They claim to be able to violate the laws of quantum physics.
The "laws of quantum physics"? There are no such things. There are descriptions and interpretations of observations.
Here is the key question: is what has been traditionally described as the ground state of hydrogen, reached by the spontaneous emission of a photon, truly the lowest energy state the hydrogen atom can reach? Yes, if you're relying upon getting there by the spontaneous emission of a photon; no, if you're able to use a catalyst to transfer the energy and allow the electron to reach a lower energy state.
The next question is whether this can be and has been done. Your argument amounts to "No, because Schrödinger, Bohr, and Dirac said so." Mills has produced novel compounds formed using the lower energy state form of hydrogen. It comes to "No, you can't" versus "Sorry, I already have."* Your only recourse, then, is to charge fraud--and when you do that in print, based only on "the laws of quantum physics say no," you are in the territory of libel.
*Spectroscopic and NMR Identification of Novel Hydride Ions in Fractional Quantum Energy States Formed by an Exothermic Reaction of Atomic Hydrogen with Certain Catalysts, R. Mills, P. Ray, B. Dhandapani, W. Good, P. Jansson, M. Nansteel, J. He and A. Voigt - 03/13/03 The European Physical Journal - Applied Physics 28, 83-104 (2004), among many more.
51 posted on
12/20/2010 4:24:06 AM PST by
aruanan
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