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200 countries over 200 years
BBC Channel 4 ^ | December 2010 | Hans Rosling

Posted on 12/15/2010 1:31:09 PM PST by RJR_fan

This 4-minute video dramatically depicts the global trends in health and wealth, from poor and sick to well and rich.


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine; History; Religion
KEYWORDS: grantpimp; progress; religion

1 posted on 12/15/2010 1:31:11 PM PST by RJR_fan
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To: DManA; CynicalBear; ex-Texan; M. Espinola; topcat54; ShadowAce; oldenuff2no; jy8z; antidemoncrat

I thought you all might find this interesting. Ideas have consequences — and the best is yet to come.


2 posted on 12/15/2010 1:32:39 PM PST by RJR_fan (The press corpse is going through the final stages of Hopium withdrawal. That leg tingle is urine.)
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To: RJR_fan
"I teach global health."

Okay...
3 posted on 12/15/2010 1:34:30 PM PST by allmost
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THAT VIDEO IS 100% BS.

Our very own cemetary’s are full of folks from the 1700’s and 1800’s that lived to 80 degrees, there is no truth to these life expectancy claims. In 1800 life expectancy world wide was in the 40’s? Hardly, this is a FLAT OUT LIE.


4 posted on 12/15/2010 1:38:33 PM PST by Scythian
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Sorry, video made me angry, such a lie, that’s 80 years I meant to say, sheeze what a stupid video


5 posted on 12/15/2010 1:39:29 PM PST by Scythian
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To: RJR_fan

I found it fascinating,and fun to watch.

It also scared the hell out of me.


6 posted on 12/15/2010 1:41:46 PM PST by Mears
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That is a great illustration of free enterprise countries rising and totalitarian countries staying poor. Even today those countries that didn’t adopt free enterprise and encourage individual ownership and reward are poor starving etc.


7 posted on 12/15/2010 1:49:57 PM PST by CynicalBear
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It’s better to have honest fiction than lies that masquerade as fact IMO.


8 posted on 12/15/2010 1:52:42 PM PST by allmost
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It is true that many folks living in the 1800s lived to advanced ages. However, many children did not live to adulthood and many babies died in infancy. If one lived to adulthood, the odds of living a long life increased substantially. Thus, life expectancies, as a whole, were depressed until infant mortality was addressed and infectious diseases that kill children were controlled.


9 posted on 12/15/2010 1:54:19 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Scythian
My mother's side of the family was Ukrainian / Scythian. When Alexander the Great, I think it was, asked why the chief of the Scythians would not render token submission to Hellenic greatness, he got a two-word reply: "Go weep." There was armed resistance to the Soviet occupation as late as the 50s in Ukraine.

To reply to your post, however, "life expectancy" is an average that can be sucked down by high infant and childhood mortality rates. So, it's not a flat-out lie, it's a statistic. You may want to check out the book How to Lie with Statistics.

10 posted on 12/15/2010 1:59:06 PM PST by RJR_fan (The press corpse is going through the final stages of Hopium withdrawal. That leg tingle is urine.)
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Interesting, but unfortunately they did not include the numbers of those individuals murdered before birth. Now that would cause on impact on life expectancy and will absolutely impact population growth. Numbers. HA!


11 posted on 12/15/2010 2:00:06 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: CynicalBear

It took a millennium of preaching against the sin of covetousness before the industrial revolution was possible. Marxism and tribalism justify envy and theft. In Africa, a farmer with a good crop will sneak into his fields at night and ruin much of it. Too much success, and your neighbors will lynch you for being a witch. After all, Party A can only prosper at the expense of Party B, right?


12 posted on 12/15/2010 2:03:14 PM PST by RJR_fan (The press corpse is going through the final stages of Hopium withdrawal. That leg tingle is urine.)
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Re post 12: Are you alright? No one snuck into to your field to covet your stash last night right? :)
13 posted on 12/15/2010 2:07:53 PM PST by allmost
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To: Scythian
Our very own cemetary’s are full of folks from the 1700’s and 1800’s that lived to 80 degrees, there is no truth to these life expectancy claims.

They are equally full of children who died in infancy or within the first year. Go check an old graveyard sometime - the number of "Baby Jones," and "Infant Smiths" might surprise you.

14 posted on 12/15/2010 2:29:14 PM PST by Terabitten ("Don't retreat. RELOAD!!" -Sarah Palin)
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To: Scythian

Who was wealthy enough to have a permanent tombstone 200 years ago? The same people wealthy enough to afford a good diet and medical care. Statistics can be manipulated to show what you want.


15 posted on 12/15/2010 3:27:31 PM PST by kik5150
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He doesn't point out in the video he's using a logarithmic scale for income. On a linear scale Qatar and Luxembourg are way out in front, and the poorer countries to the left look even poorer.
16 posted on 12/15/2010 5:04:44 PM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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