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To: Red Steel

“’For all but forty-four people in our nation’s history (the forty-four Presidents), the dichotomy between who is a natural born citizen and who is a naturalized citizen under the Fourteenth Amendment is irrelevant.’”

“We see that the Indiana Hillbillies actually understand and declare that 14th Amendment only naturalized persons to be citizens”

Can you read? It does NOT say the 14th “only” naturalizes people.

“the Indiana Hillbillies Appeals Court also say that the dichotomy ‘is irrelevant.’”

Irrelevant for whom? Read your quote: “For all but forty-four people in our nation’s history (the forty-four Presidents)...” In other words, the difference between NBCs and naturalized is irrelevant for everything save being president.

You’re grasping at straws.


971 posted on 11/17/2010 2:35:51 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
You’re grasping at straws.

Don't you wish tubby.

974 posted on 11/17/2010 2:41:28 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Tublecane
Can you read? It does NOT say the 14th “only” naturalizes people.

Apparently you can't. Lets look at the whole footnote.

"14 We note the fact that the Court in Wong Kim Ark did not actually pronounce the plaintiff a “natural born Citizen” using the Constitution‟s Article II language is immaterial.

[Gee Tub, Indiana admits that Gray did not claim Ark a natural born citizen. He did not because Ark was not a natural born citizen.]

For all but forty-four people in our nation‟s history (the forty-four Presidents), the dichotomy between who is a natural born citizen and who is a naturalized citizen under the Fourteenth Amendment is irrelevant.

[The operative word above between NBC is "AND" - who was naturalized under the 14th Amend.]

The issue addressed in Wong Kim Ark was whether Mr. Wong Kim Ark was a citizen of the United States on the basis that he was born in the United States. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. at 705, 18 S. Ct. at 478"

That's right Indiana and you trolls here; you guys are jumping to the erroneous conclusions that Ark or Obama are natural born is just silly. I also pointed out that Marie Elizabeth Elg was not running for president but to stay in the United States as a citizen, however the Supreme Court went ahead and ruled her to be a natural born citizen because she had US citizen parents and she was born in the US of A.

980 posted on 11/17/2010 3:02:38 PM PST by Red Steel
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