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Question: Why does the Air Force seem to harbor more liberals than other military branches?
FREEPers | 11/7/10 | Recovering_Democrat

Posted on 11/07/2010 7:14:47 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat

First of all, no offense meant to the good conservatives in the Air Force.

Second, I thank all members of our military for their service, regardless of their political points of view.

Here is what I have observed...and admittedly, I have known only a FEW Air Force veterans. So perhaps my experience isn't the best judge.

Seems to me, though, that of the friends and acquaintences I've had, the folks who have served or are serving in the AIR FORCE are much more prone to be liberals in their politics than others I've known who are in the Army, Navy, or Marines.

One particular encounter with an old close friend, who I've come back into contact with, seems to have really gone off the deep end...

I don't know, perhaps I'm wrong and just have had "bad luck" in meeting up with the libs.

Is this a fair judgement--are there more liberals in the Air Force? And if so, why?

Thanks.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: airforce; culture; liberals; usaf; usairforce
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Stop calling them liberals. The left has nothing to do with liberty - except for sexual freaks and criminals.


41 posted on 11/07/2010 8:08:29 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, what are you hiding? Release your Birth Certificate!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Better dining facilities.


42 posted on 11/07/2010 8:10:16 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Nice post. And just in time for Veteran’s Day. You should be proud.


43 posted on 11/07/2010 8:12:25 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Stop calling them liberals. The left has nothing to do with liberty - except for sexual freaks and criminals”

So the Navy then? My ex husband was in the Navy, never met more libtards and little Asian girl lovers in one place.


44 posted on 11/07/2010 8:15:08 PM PST by DreamingWest
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To: Rembrandt

Are you saying that serving in the Air Force is about the same as being a deserter or draft dodger?


45 posted on 11/07/2010 8:16:18 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Recovering_Democrat

You’re not imagining things. I was stationed at an AF base and have known a few AF people casually and quite a few of them come across as liberals. I don’t understand it.


46 posted on 11/07/2010 8:19:32 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Officer or enlisted? From my experience, I’d say you are wrong with respect to officers, particularly fliers, and correct with respect to enlisted. I attribute it to the fact that officers do the fighting in the USAF, and outside of the flightline, it is a very civilian like workforce. Based on 25 years flying in the USAF....


47 posted on 11/07/2010 8:32:31 PM PST by Mr Rogers (When an ass brays, don't reply)
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To: captain cynic

captain cynic ping

I think Navy guys seem less conservative, and that many army enlisted voted for Obama.

What do you think?


48 posted on 11/07/2010 8:35:11 PM PST by GILTN1stborn
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To: Recovering_Democrat

It’s true... All my relatives in the AF are libs. My Naval relatives are conservative. The Air Force family members are total paper pushers. Unfortunately, it jades my opinion of that branch.


49 posted on 11/07/2010 8:49:01 PM PST by SanDiegoRepublican
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To: NavyCanDo

If I was a Liberal that wanted to join the military, I would probably want to join a branch of service that I would have the least chance of having to do any actual fighting.
***Pretty much sums it up right there.


50 posted on 11/07/2010 9:03:36 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: MrEdd

I’ll tell you one thing, I know what one of those squares that sleeping Marine is dreaming of. You G-damn better believe. :)


51 posted on 11/07/2010 9:10:06 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: fr_freak

Lol, I drove a FAC track for a year in Germany and worked with 3 AF guys, an LT, an E-7 and an E-4.

They were all on a first name basis too, my platoon sergeant would have had a stroke if I’d called him by his first name, after he’d torn off my head and crapped down my neck.

The AF guys all wore cammies and berets before they became Army issue and had cute “combat crew” tabs on their shoulders, they also went into town for breakfast and coffee most mornings, in the middle of an FTX mind you!

They were pretty nice guys but not the most military folks I ever met.


52 posted on 11/07/2010 9:25:34 PM PST by skepsel
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To: Thrownatbirth

Oh yea. When I was a Marine stationed on Okinawa we used to love when our daily routine somehow skirted Kadena so we partake in their fine dining. Their Sunday brunch at the O club also offered wine, champagne and screw drivers.


53 posted on 11/07/2010 9:40:36 PM PST by BBell
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Here’s some feedback...you are an idiot.


54 posted on 11/07/2010 9:46:43 PM PST by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I would think it would be the Coast Guard as a percentage.


55 posted on 11/07/2010 9:49:21 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Don’t forget FReeper(?) Ms. WKA!!!


56 posted on 11/07/2010 9:55:06 PM PST by danamco (")
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To: Recovering_Democrat

SAC is gone.


57 posted on 11/07/2010 11:11:02 PM PST by Domangart
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To: mamelukesabre

You wrote that liberals *think* they are superior. Yeah I get it. They use that label as some sort of badge of superiority. I just think it’s funny because most liberals are low skilled workers and I doubt that they even graduated from high school.


58 posted on 11/07/2010 11:35:03 PM PST by ari-freedom (Ding dong the Pelosi is gone!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Air Force Air Weather Service 1972-1978. It was my impression that the Coast Guard had more liberals (oxymoron) by percentage, with the Navy second, the Air Force third, the Army fourth, and Marines last. By numbers, however, it was my impression the Navy had the most, the Army second, the Air Force third, the Marines fourth, and the Coast Guard last.

The liberals in the Air Force seemed to be found more often in the combat service support branches, officer and enlisted. There seemed to be fewer liberals among the Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard airmen.

Aircrews seemed to have fewer liberals. Most weathermen tended to have long assignments at the same permanent stations for one or more enlistments, which caused some dissatisfaction affecting careers and reenlistments in Air Weather Service.

Some fewer of us, however, had the opposite experience and were kept on a very busy TDY schedule supporting both permanent and temporary assignments with a wide variety of Air Force, Army, and Joint commands. SAC mess halls were the best. SAC attitude was something special, and liberals had less room to play or get sympathy there, it seemed. TAC was a mixed bag with the combat aircrews being particularly less disposed towards liberals. Likewise with the ADC or perhaps even more so than TAC, it’s hard to tell. MAC was different in some units and not other units, it seemed.

Working with the Army seemed to be somewhat like the Air Force. Liberals seemed to show up the more you went from the combat to combat support to combat service support branches. But there were always those special exceptions.

I spent some interesting hours on the runway of Pope AFB in a cattlecar awaiting loading aboard a C-130 while listening to some 82nd Abn enlisted pouring out their liberal grievances in my quiet disgust.

In the desert of Ft. Irwin I listened to an Air Force TAC FAC (Forward Air Controller) and an Army Armored radio operator share their disappointment in the liberal antics of the Army transportaion NCO and Air Force maintenance technician extolling the virtues of Carter.

A relative served in the Army Air forces as an enlisted man and B-17 waist gunner in combat missions over Europe. He went into the war as a Democrat, and he survived the combat missions and war as a Democrat dedicated to pacifism and a critic of the strategic bombing offensive in which he participated. He did not like the idea that he participated in the bombing of the civilians in the cities.

He later volunteered for service as an Army National Guard officer in an ambulance service unit which was mobilized on active duty in the Korean Conflict and assigned to Germany. He subsequently served as a liberal Democrat Party officer for some decades. He did not shy away from dangerous combat duties or onerous duties because he was a liberal.

Although my experience with the Navy and Marines was considerably more limited, most of the liberal oriented schoolmates I knew chose to serve as officers and enlistees in the Navy or as enlistees in the Army. The Air Force seemed to attract fewer of them because the test scores needed to qualify for most occupational fields other than the usual Security Police and service support branches tended to be higher than the Army and Navy. Since the Army and Navy had more personnel, the Air Force numbers were fewer, so the percentages of conservatives versus liberals seemed to be easier to influence.

Carter was unmitigated disaster. He was selling F-14 aircraft and parts to Iran and leaving the Navy without enough to sustain proper operational readiness. The Air Force’s 1st Fighter Wing (F-15) had many of their aircraft grounded due to insufficient spare engines and spare parts. Shortages of uniforms left me without new combat boots, a new field jacket, and other new uniforms and equipment. Ultimately, Carter went on to disband our units and RIF our personnel.

Which branch has the most liberals? I don’t know, but each branch seemed to have its own pockets of liberals in comparison to other branches. It would be interesting to see what the distributions look like today.


59 posted on 11/08/2010 2:19:52 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Recovering_Democrat

because being liberal is the right way!


60 posted on 11/08/2010 5:23:42 AM PST by wawwiz (Violence is the diplomacy of the incompetent.)
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