University of Florida research provides new understanding of bizarre extinct mammal

EurekAlert ^ | Monday, October 11, 2010 | Ben Norman

[SunkenCiv]

This well-preserved fossil a 55-million-year-old extinct mammal, Labidolemur kayi, was recovered from freshwater limestone in the Bighorn Basin near Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming. The specimen helped University of Florida scientists write a comprehensive analysis of L. kayi's cranial anatomy, scheduled to appear in the Oct. 11 online edition of the Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society. [Kristen Grace]

University of Florida vertebrate paleontologist Jonathan Bloch examines the full skeleton of Labidolemur kayi, a 55-million-year-old extinct mammal with odd ecological adaptations. Reddish-brown epoxy was used during the preparation process to hold the skeleton together. The UF study of L. kayi's cranial anatomy is scheduled to appear in the Oct. 11 online edition of the Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society. Researchers determined L. kayi shares a common ancestor with rodents and primates, including humans. [Kristen Grace]

University of Florida vertebrate paleontologist Jonathan Bloch holds two cranial fragments of the extinct mammal L. kayi to show how the complete skull would have looked, similar to the skull of the present-day Pen-tailed Tree Shrew from Southeast Asia, right. Unlike the cast of an extinct apatemyid in the background, the specimens used in the UF study scheduled to appear in the Oct. 11 online edition of the Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society are preserved in three dimensions. Researchers determined L. kayi shares a common ancestor with rodents and primates, including humans. [Kristen Grace]

[SunkenCiv]

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[1010RD]

Isn’t this just high tech phrenology? Shouldn’t they use DNA to trace these ancestral families?

[colorado tanker]

Couldn't find a picture of one of these suckers, but this is an apatemyid relative.

[SunkenCiv]

Not phrenology, morphology. Morphology rooools. There’s no DNA in stuff this old *most of the time*. You’ve no doubt seen the T-Rex hemaglobin stories, FR has had a lot of duplicate topics for that matter. :’)

The way DNA is sometimes used to find common ancestry is to actually find very similar genes (those are three-basepair groups on a DNA strand, in this case a chromosome) in two different living samples, and try to estimate the length of time since the common source was identical and living.

[SunkenCiv]

Speaking of suckers, that one looks like Chupacabra! Aiiiiiieee!

[SunkenCiv]

Not sure these are all of them!

• Would you Adam 'n' Eve it ... dinosaurs in Eden
• PRESERVED T. Rex Soft Tissue RECOVERED (Pic)
• Scientists see the softer side of Tyrannosaurus Rex
• Ancient T. rex and mastodon protein fragments discovered, sequenced
• BBC: Protein links T. rex to chickens ~ ummm tasty....
• Scientists Retrieve Proteins From Dinosaur Bone
• Dinosaur protein sequenced - Lucky find shows up record-breaking fossil.
• Dinosaur research backs link to birds
• Oldest Dinosaur Protein Found -- Blood Vessels, More
• Reexamination of T. rex verifies disputed biochemical remains

- cre/vo "great divide" -

• The scrambling continues (Fallout over T-rex bone tissue continues)
• Dinosaur Shocker (YEC say dinosaur soft tissue couldn't possibly survive millions of years)
• Dino Skin Preserved in Rare Fossil Find
• Dinosaur Blood Protein, Cells Recovered
• First dino 'blood' extracted from ancient bone (more evidence for young earth creation!)
• Hadrosaur Soft Tissues Another Blow to Long-Ages Myth (first T. rex, then another T. rex, now this!)
• Dakota Dino Reveals Skin Cells (first they find dino blood &vessels, now they find dino skin cells!)
• Dinosaur Soft Tissues: They're Real!
• Schweitzer's Dangerous Discovery (How did Dinosaur soft tissue survive millions of years?)
• The question of dinosaur DNA
• Dinosaur Soft Tissue Issue Is Here to Stay
• Soft Muscle Tissue Found in Fossil Salamander (evos claim it is 18 million years old!)
• Fresh Tissues from Solid Rock

[Pharmboy]

Just an occasional thank you for all the great work you do with these fantastic posts on FR!

Your work is much appreciated...

[goseminoles]

They must have discovered their football team.

[JoeProBono]

[eartrumpet]

Flintstones roadkill?

[TruthWillWin]

Damn! Thought this was a story about liberal democrats.

[exDemMom]

Isn’t this just high tech phrenology? Shouldn’t they use DNA to trace these ancestral families?

Not really.

Long before DNA technologies were developed, animals were classified on the basis of anatomical features. DNA in such old specimens is sometimes non-existent, but the old methods of classification are still valid.

[JoeProBono]

Bacon from my camp site

[dfwgator]

Certainly our offense is extinct.

[1010RD]

I was just making fun of morphology. Haven’t there been errors made in classifications by morphology? Pandas, hyenas...

There seems to be great clarity in general classifications - mammal, reptile, fish, vertebrates/invertebrates - but doesn’t it begin to be more art than science at some level?

[1010RD]

Doesn’t it eventually devolve to an art, especially at transitions?

[exDemMom]

All science is an art. The idea that science is clear-cut and there are always definitive answers is mostly propaganda meant for mass consumption. In the real world, it’s not so simple.

Also, there are no “transitions.” There is a continuum, where specimens taken at various intervals might be different, but there is no point at which one can say “it was this; now it’s that.”

[1010RD]

Art is subjective, no? And to be a continuum there can’t be gaps or else it isn’t continuous, no?

From Wiki:

Continuum - anything that goes through a gradual transition from one condition, to a different condition, without any abrupt changes

I am not aware that the fossil record is that complete and clear.