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Swiss archaeologists find 5,000-year-old door
Associated Press ^ | October 20, 2010 | FRANK JORDANS

Posted on 10/20/2010 3:13:36 PM PDT by decimon

GENEVA – Archaeologists in the Swiss city of Zurich have unearthed a 5,000-year-old door that may be one of the oldest ever found in Europe.

The ancient poplar wood door is "solid and elegant" with well-preserved hinges and a "remarkable" design for holding the boards together, chief archaeologist Niels Bleicher said Wednesday.

Using tree rings to determine its age, Bleicher believes the door could have been made in the year 3,063 B.C. — around the time that construction on Britain's world famous Stonehenge monument began.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: door; godsgravesglyphs; swiss
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To: allmendream
LOL. Well yes of course, but you see - in harsh years the tree rings are closer together - and in lush years the tree rings are further apart. By looking at the PATTERN of such you can correlate with OTHER trees and tree rings and figure out at what time the tree was growing.

I know that up in the Sierras there are 4,000 year old living trees, plus standing or lying dead trees; that can get the climate pattern back much further. But not sure how this would apply to Europe, unless they can infer climate patterns from ice cores reliably enough.

In any event, tree rings can give the exact year of harvesting. There are abandoned indian ruins in the west where they know the exact year lumber was cut to support a mud roof. Plus they know the location of where the tree came from; sometimes hundreds of miles away.

21 posted on 10/20/2010 3:48:57 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: frithguild
That t-square looks fake, planted.

"It was real pretty when it was new. I picked it out!"

Somebody had to.

22 posted on 10/20/2010 3:52:03 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bigbob
Jim Morrison?

No, I was thinking "Swiss time is standing still" from "Smoke on the Water", Deep Purple.

23 posted on 10/20/2010 3:53:07 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: decimon

Was it a red door?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NhA58gh2P8


24 posted on 10/20/2010 3:53:19 PM PDT by 353FMG (Sooner or later we will have to make the choice between ISLAM or America,)
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To: decimon

The door as it originally appeared on the house.

25 posted on 10/20/2010 3:57:52 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: decimon

Unhinged.

I’ve built some frame and panel doors and I know how hard it is to get everything to come together ... and stay together. This is really awesome. sd


26 posted on 10/20/2010 4:01:44 PM PDT by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: decimon

That would be the perfect door to hit Helen Thomas in the @ss on the way out. :)


27 posted on 10/20/2010 4:10:20 PM PDT by sierrahome
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To: decimon

They had woodworking tools in 3600 B.C.? And hinges? Okaaayyyyy......


28 posted on 10/20/2010 4:13:06 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: frithguild

Looks like the kinda door you see in the movies, the one that they tell the babysitter not to open...


29 posted on 10/20/2010 4:21:50 PM PDT by defal33
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To: Normal4me

Well, what did Noah use to build the ark?


30 posted on 10/20/2010 4:24:15 PM PDT by irishtenor (All that I say, all that I do, is predestined.)
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To: Normal4me

Noah built an ark. That had at least one door....


31 posted on 10/20/2010 4:28:24 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Normal4me

Why do you find this surprising?


32 posted on 10/20/2010 4:41:08 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: decimon

“Solid and Elegant”????

Looks like firewood to me. /s


33 posted on 10/20/2010 5:07:39 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Normal4me

Ever here a story about some lunatic who built a yacht/cargo ship on the words of some voice he never met.

The dimension were suppose to be 300 cubits by 50 cubits and carry 2 of each animal? /s


34 posted on 10/20/2010 5:11:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: decimon

Still had a sticker “Made in China”


35 posted on 10/20/2010 5:12:11 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: All

Did Spock and Kirk jump trough it?

How about the SG1 team?


36 posted on 10/20/2010 6:07:45 PM PDT by ak267
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To: decimon; a fool in paradise

An old theory has it that doors were invented before walls, and before houses even. Here’s the proof.


37 posted on 10/20/2010 6:11:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!
An old theory has it that doors were invented before walls, and before houses even. Here’s the proof.

That's convincing.

38 posted on 10/20/2010 6:19:12 PM PDT by decimon
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To: EternalVigilance; allmendream

The date the wood was cut can’t be determined, IOW, the RC dates of the rings can (at best) be wiggle-matched against any established data (because there’s annual fluctuations in RC production and absorption) — unless there happens to be an outer ring with the bark attached. Then the year the wood was cut can be determined within the appropriate range of error.

A somewhat younger door was found in Greece some years back — it was still being used as a door, but apparently had been borrowed from an older derelict structure, and before that from an earlier derelict, etc, such that the RC date on the wood was (if memory serves) something like 2000 BC. Again, without a bark layer, it’s not possible to know when the wood was cut. :’)


39 posted on 10/20/2010 7:50:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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40 posted on 10/20/2010 7:51:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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