"BE PERFECT AS I AM PERFECT."
Scripture also says there is
NONE RIGHTEOUS, NO, NOT ONE.
And that anyone who thinks they are without sin, is a liar.
So, where is Holy Spirit's wisdom amidst these very Biblical statements?
imho . . .
1. Perfection is unattainable in this life/time/space dimension.
2. REACHING TOWARD THE MARK OF THE HIGH CALLING IN JESUS is still a worthy GOAL AS LED BY HOLY SPIRIT.
3. HOWEVER, Scripture gives plenty of indications that WE CANNOT remotely achieve perfection TO ANY DEGREE IN OUR OWN STRENGTH
4. HOWEVER, the mentality, STRIVING, obsessiveness, drivenness, insecurities etc. involved with HUMAN PERFECTION SEEKING and "RELIGIOUS" PRACTICES, EFFORTS are, according to Paul, more or less deadly, counter productive, flesh driven, even evil.
5. And, modern research shows that St Paul is quite accurate:
6. The driven perfectionism that characterizes so many arises out of some level of attachment disorder fostered insecurity and a GRITTED TEETH DETERMINATION to "BE PERFECT" . . . at LEAST to ACT PERFECT . . . to earn our salvation, to earn approval of others etc. etc. etc.
7. PERFECTIONISTS ARE NOT AS SUCCESSFUL as nonperfectionists. They TYPICALLY earn less money (there are exceptions). They don't live as long. They have less satisfying marriages; less satisfying work and other relationships; less life fulfillment. And, St Paul would say, less holiness.
8. They have more conflicted relationships BECAUSE they have a very annoying obsessive habit of trying to batter everyone else into their construction on reality. We saw this in my exchanges with you where my GREAT agreement with you--and my persistent efforts to rephrase things so that we could share even more agreement WERE NEVER ENOUGH.
9. That's a hallmark trait of perfectionists. I should know beyond just my training about such. I'm a recovering one myself.
10. That NEVER PERFECT ENOUGH to be satisfied aspect tends to be very fraying on our closer relationshps.
11. And, when WE keep that intruding in our relationship with God, it distances us from Him. It doesn't bring us closer. Christ's Blood covers us as we are--while HE CLEANS US UP--or it doesn't--we are incapable.
12. LEARNING TO REST IN HIM and cooperate with Him in His perfecting of me is still a growing edge. However, I know a lot about what it's NOT.
9. Sorry but your diagnosis is wrong, even with your training.
8. I find it very interesting that I am the one that is now being targeted by those on your ping list. I answer one of them and now you feel the need to jump back in. I mentioned several times during our discussion that yes we agree on 99% that the ET’s are fallen angels/demons but that I disagreed on the 1% chance that you hold to that they could be from another planet...a point that you have said repeatedly that it did not matter but still continued to argue that point. So if I am understanding you and the others correctly...unless I agree with you 100% that ET’s could be from another planet then I have a mental disorder, but if you keep coming back to disagree with me about this same point (that YOU said was not an issue) then you are in the position to diagnosis me with a mental disorder...interesting concept. Start a conversation and if anybody disagrees with you then call them a name or attach some stigma to them...
This is just getting to weird...good bye.