[drierice]

Coming in late here: If it makes it easier for the “naysayers”, I’m a selective UFO believer/skeptic, depending on the case (only because I’ve seen some things myself), but my jaw still dropped when this info came out about the missile shutdowns.

With three very strange headlines in a week, the question is: are we in an ongoing period of incremental disclosure, or a temporary phase of unsettling revelations?

If it’s disclosure, we can look for more signs to prepare the public. A global, concerted effort to disclose would almost have to have a public pre-conditioning phase, of info spoon fed to avoid panic.

If more disclosure occurs, I hope that people will broaden their perspectives, become less judgmental and dismissive, and try to be inclusive of the findings in their beliefs. A broader interpretation doesn’t have to negate faith.

Of course, all UFO’s do not fall under one description. Here’s something I saw in 2002 which I have no idea what it was… hopefully someone can please explain or debunk it for me:

I was in a high-rise at nighttime on the water, overlooking the Baltimore harbor, with the downtown on the other side of the harbor from me.

A luminous green light, narrow, long, (a green glowing light with a trail) dropped from the sky to just below my window. It was maybe a couple feet across, maybe 6-8 ft. long. I assumed it was a falling star/meteor, which can burn out in different colors.

It swooped down and flew out across the harbor, just above the water; then flew UP over the tall buildings downtown and disappeared in the sky behind them. The time it took to travel the length of the harbor and pass the downtown was about 3-4 seconds… faster than anything imaginable.The light also was moving and vibrating, like a wiggling snake.

I relate this story because it is so subtle; no giant ship, aliens, etc.

Any takers? I’m putting my head on the chopping block here, but I’d really rather it be explained (and be proven an idiot) than never know what it was.

My thoughts since are that if these phenomenon fall under the category of “technology”, perhaps the technology has become more stealthy/ less detectable over time. And I make no assumptions about the cause/source of these things. (end of tedious post)

[Quix]

Very fascinating.

Thanks for your brave example and case report.

There have been thousands of special light cases similar. I don’t recall one exactly like that.

There was even one case of a square light from a craft engulfing a person, IIRC. He could stick his hand ouside the square column of light as though the light were almost tangible and did not go beyond it’s square boundaries.

I’m just reminded of the “angels of light” warnings in Scripture.

This is not a sphere of the phenomena which I have spent a lot of time studying. I hope others speak up if they’ve had similar experiences.

[Quix]

12,000 year old stone circles in Turkey with exquisite carvings . . . posted by Quix by written permission of Linda Moulton Howe. The full article and quite a number of additional pics are at:

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1769&category=Science

Gobekli Tepe: 12,000 Years Old and Rewriting Human History

“This time what came first was the temple and then the city.”
- Klaus Schmidt, Ph.D., German Archaeological Institute

12,000-year-old circles of limestone columns weighing from 7 to 15 tons or more
have been excavated in Gobekli Tepe, Turkey, about 6 miles northeast of Urfa.
Older than Egypt, Sumeria and Stonehenge, 40 standing T-shaped columns have so far been
uncovered in four circles 98 feet (30 meters) in diameter. To date, no metal tools
have been found since meticulous digging and dating began in 1994. Only 5% of the temple
complex in repeating circles has been uncovered. Image © 2008 by Haldun Aydingun.

Ground-penetrating radar surveys indicate there might be at least 250 more standing stones
in 18 still-buried circles. Finely honed reliefs and some 3-dimensional sculptures
on the limestone columns depict boars, foxes, lions, birds, snakes, scorpions, vultures,
reptiles, humans and other figures. Illustration © by Smithsonian.

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One of the Gobekli Tepe mysteries is why was the temple site completely buried about 1,500 years after it was constructed? That dirt cover-up for more than 10,000 years has preserved the finely carved relief and sculpture on the columns ranging in height and weight from 7 to 15 tons or more. Image © 2010 by John Anthony West and Robert Schoch, Ph.D.

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October 1, 2010 Saugerties, New York - In the 1980s, it was discovered that the Egyptian sphinx had evidence of weather erosion dating back to around 2500 B. C., or nearly five thousand years ago. French Egyptian scholar R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz asserted the weathering was caused by water during transition from the last ice age, perhaps even as long ago as 10,000 B. C., or 12,000 years ago. The water erosion possibility caught the attention of Egyptologist John Anthony West, author of the 1993 book, Serpent in the Sky: The High Wisdom of Ancient Egypt.

Ground-penetrating radar surveys indicate there might be at least 250 more standing stones in eighteen still-buried circles. Finely honed reliefs and some 3-dimensional sculptures on the limestone columns depict boars, foxes, lions, birds, snakes, scorpions, vultures, reptiles, humans and other odd figures and symbols. German archaeologist Schmidt says he has no idea what the reliefs and 3-dimensional carvings mean. And to date, no metal tools have been found since the meticulous digging and dating began in 1994. Today, only 5% of the temple complex of repeating stone circles has been uncovered.

Adding to the mystery of who built Gobekli Tepe? And why? is the revelation that 10,800 years ago, the entire Gobekli site was buried. How long would that have taken? Did the makers have knowledge of impending danger? The effort needed to erect the many large stone circles 12,000 years ago and then fifteen hundred years later have the entire temple site buried is incomprehensible.

But whether or not we ever learn who built Gobekli Tepe and why, the carbon dating at 12,000 years ago gives new life to the theory of John Anthony West and geologist Dr. Robert Schoch that the Egyptian sphinx is at least that old as well. In May 2010, John Anthony West and Robert Schoch traveled to Gobekli Tepe to see for themselves the extraordinary temple site in southeastern Turkey that John says is the smoking gun after their twenty years of trying to show that the water erosion on the Sphinx means that stone sculpture is much older than originally thought.

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What they (Schmidt) have found so far are four closely packed stone circles rather like Stonehenges. These consist of two central pillars – massive central pillars between 10 and 15 tons each – surrounded within a set of two concentric circles of smaller pillars. And the pillars themselves – 10 to 15 tons – you know, without equipment, this is a pretty big chunk of stone to bring up the hill. The quarry was half a mile away down hill to get them there. And then, even more amazing than that are the carvings, which are – they look a bit Mayan and almost Easter Islandy and a bit Egyptian – pre-dynastic Egyptian.

The best (stones) are absolutely spectacular! And they are raised relief, which is the most difficult kind of sculpture to do. That means that somebody draws the lion, or the crane, or the fox, or the wild boar on the stone and then somehow or another they cut away the surface of the stone so that the relief seems to be jumping out from the stone rather than being cut into the stone.

Now these things are done on 10 to 15 ton blocks without any metal, as far as anybody knows, without any tools! We don’t know. We know that they’ve found at least 18 other sites. Now whether or not all of those sites are more stone circles, I don’t know.

 

What Drilled Holes in Hard Stone Beads?

There are other serious mysteries. There is a little black bead and it’s a very hard stone – kind of a basalt-like or a very hard shale or something – a really hard little stone that is maybe an inch square and maybe a quarter of an inch thick. And it has a hole – a perfect hole – drilled lengthwise through the quarter-inch thickness. Now, how the hell without any metal you drill the bead of a necklace – a perfect hole through a piece of hard stone without any metal whatsoever as far as we know …

TWELVE THOUSAND YEARS AGO.

Twelve thousand years ago!

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Is Gobekli Tepe An Astronomical Monitor?

So, this is a big mystery, but we think – Schock and myself – that these reliefs, which are mainly animals and insects and snakes and scorpions and some of them are anthropomorphic human figures as well. And we think these are probably astronomical, astrological, cosmological. They didn’t go to this trouble to put 10 and 15 ton blocks of stone in the middle of a stone circle and carve them with animals. It has to be something consequential! The energy that goes into this is mind boggling!

IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY WHAT YOU AND ROBERT SCHOCH TALKED ABOUT TOGETHER WHEN YOU WERE TOGETHER AT GOBEKLI TEPE THIS YEAR – IF IT WERE COMPLETELY EXCAVATED AND WE COULD SEE ALL OF THE CIRCLES, YOU ARE HYPOTHESIZING THAT POSSIBLY EACH CIRCLE IS MONITORING AND KEEPING TRACK OF A DIFFERENT PIECE OF ASTRONOMY?

Well, maybe. I mean look – this is a total mystery!

WELL, JOHN, IAN HOLDER AT STANFORD UNIVERSITY – HE IS A PROFESSOR OF ANTHROPOLOGY THERE – HE SAYS, ‘EVERYBODY USED TO THINK ONLY COMPLEX HIERARCHICAL CIVILIZATIONS COULD BUILD SUCH MONUMENTAL SITES AND THAT THEY ONLY CAME ABOUT WITH THE INVENTION OF AGRICULTURE. GOBEKLI CHANGES EVERYTHING! IT IS ELABORATE. IT IS COMPLEX AND IT IS PRE-AGRICULTURAL. THAT ALONE MAKES THIS SITE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ARCHAEOLOGICAL FINDS IN A VERY LONG TIME.’

AND DR. SCHMIDT GOES FURTHER: ‘THIS TIME WHAT CAME FIRST WAS THE TEMPLE AND THEN THE CITY.’

That’s right, yeah. They had a mind set – or a heart set, you might say – so different from our own that we wouldn’t dream of trying to make a Gobekli Tepe. We can fly to the moon, but nobody would sit down and try without any kind of tools that we know of – lug 15-ton blocks up a hill to build a stone circle. What for?

I mean, they have some very good reason for doing this. We just don’t know what it is and we might never know.

I’M CURIOUS WHAT IT FELT LIKE TO TOUCH THE REMARKABLE RELIEFS THAT WE ARE SEEING IN THESE PHOTOGRAPHS?

Oh, yeah, well it’s limestone. But because it was buried for the last 10,000 years, it’s really practically perfect. I mean, there is hardly anything in Egypt that is as perfect as that and as un-weathered. The pillars with the reliefs on them – you can run your fingers over them. You have the sense of tremendous antiquity of it. You know you are in a holy place. They are building according to the principles of sacred geometry and that resonates.

Each of the 12,000-year-old T-shaped columns of limestone weighs 10 to 15 tons.
This feline is finely carved in three dimensions. Image © 2009 by Ergun Cagatay.

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This highly strange column includes carved limestone reliefs of a scorpion near
bottom and possibly a vulture with wings outstretched. The round object might depict
a human heart to be eaten by the vulture in a “sky burial” in which a dead human
body is consumed by vultures and “recycled” in the cosmos. Image © 2009 by Ergun Cagatay.

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More Information:

For further related information about ancient archaeology sites, please see other Earthfiles reports below from the Archive:

• 07/29/2006 — New Hampshire's "Mystery Stone"
• 07/07/2006 — Noah's Ark Atop Takht-e-Soleiman Peak in Iran?
• 12/09/2005 — Mystery of "Footprints" in 1.3 Million-Year-Old Mexico Volcanic Rock
• 12/31/2004 — Abrupt Climate Change Occurred Worldwide 5,200 Years Ago
• 12/09/2005 — Mystery of "Footprints" in 1.3 Million-Year-Old Mexico Volcanic Rock
• 11/02/2002 — Update on 6,500-Year-Old Astronomical Stone Circle and Megaliths in Nabta, Egypt
• 10/19/2002 — Shifting Time Lines and Earth's Destiny?
• 10/12/2002 — Could Cheops Pyramid's Small Channels and "Doors" Be Resonators or Antennae?
• 04/23/2002 — John Anthony West Organizing New Effort to Date Weathering of Sphinx and Red Pyramid Chamber
• 12/01/2001 — 1200 B. C. - What Caused Earthquake Storms, Global Drought and End of Bronze Age?
• 11/19/2001 — Update on Underwater Megalithic Structures near Western Cuba
• 05/05/2001 — Archaeologists Find Central Asia Civilization As Old As Sumeria
• 11/19/2000 — Great Pyramid At Giza - Star Alignment Might Determine Age
• 09/17/2000 — Evidence of 7000 Year Old Flood and Human Habitation Discovered Beneath Black Sea
• 05/28/2000 — Hamoukar, Syria - A City Older Than 6000 Years?

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Quix: The question is . . . purportedly before agriculture . . . who or what built such structures?

[Windflier]

I relate this story because it is so subtle; no giant ship, aliens, etc.

I had a similar sighting in 1994. I was driving westbound on US I-10. I was crossing that long stretch of elevated roadway that spans a swampy region of Alabama/Mississippi.

What I saw was an enormous, multi-colored beam of light that emanated from within the swamp, maybe two or three miles south of the road. It simply turned on in an instant, and beamed into space. It was literally the largest single thing I have ever seen. It took up at least a quarter of my field of vision.

The quality of the light was more brilliant and rich than any artificial light I've ever seen. There were individual color bands constantly moving amongst each other, all within the larger beam.

I looked out through the window and up toward the top of the beam, and it went out to infinity. I couldn't see an end to it.

The whole event lasted less than ten seconds, and then it blinked out.

My son (who is now 29) witnessed it also, and there were other cars on the road. I didn't stop, and I didn't notice if anyone else did. My car was in motion the whole time.

One of the most peculiar aspects of the sighting, is that the light appeared in the middle of an area that is totally wild and supposedly uninhabited. I've been up and down that stretch of highway many times, and there's just nothing out there.

I submitted a report about this to MUFON, and they had one of their researchers contact me. She did a lengthy interview with me, and got every detail. The report is now in their records. I asked her at the time, if they'd had any other reports of this phenomenon, and she told me that mine was the only one.