Shocking revelation: Former Air Force personnel disclose UFO, alien-related threats

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[marbren]

(NECN: Washington) - A press conference was held this afternoon at the National Press Club in Washington, where at least a dozen former U.S. Air Force personnel, mostly officers who worked on secret projects connected to sensitive nuclear weapons sites, are admitting that they were privy to UFO and alien-related incidents -- that occurred during their time of service.

In this clip, you will hear from: Retired Air Force Captain Robert Salas, Former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Dwayne Arneson and Former Air Force Official Bill Jameson

[Quix]

Surprisingly, paradoxically . . . I share a lot of that value. More than it might seem.

[Quix]

I’d have thought you’d have noticed a moderating of such in my over all postings.

Though sometimes I don’t think anyone notices me moderating anything! LOL.

[Quix]

Thanks for noticing the distinction.

The role of mirror is not a fun one regardless of how . . . experienced I am at it. LOL.

[Quix]

THANKS TONS BROTHER.

[Quix]

What a fascinating piece of work.

Thanks for the candor of your pinging me to your opinions.

[marbren]

Dana Carvey “Church Lady” I believe is a product of my, maybe former, denomination. I know a lot of church ladies.

[marbren]

You are a wonderful educator and watchman. You make the comfortable people uncomfortable and the uncomfortable people comfortable.

[Quix]

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.

PRAISE THE LORD.

Then I’m doing my job. LOL . . . by His Grace.

[marbren]

One thing I love about FR is how easy it is to find spiritual unity here.

[Quix]

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

[NYer]

There are no ALIEN life forms!

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Planet Earth is the ONLY one that hosts life.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

Prove it!

[Quix]

1. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE hearing your opinion.

2. What 2-3 things MOST convince you of that perspective?

3. Are you unaware that the Vatican is decidedly and emphatically on the other side of that issue?

4. IF, as seems inexorably inevitable, the Vatican continues to speak on the other side and CONTINUES to say that ET’s are either not in need of Salvation through Christ or elligible for it. . . . and are indeed, benign to some sort of saviors for mankind and the planet . . . what will you do with your perspective?

5. IF, as seems highly likely, the Vatican ends up making it a dogmatic requirement to hold the Vatican’s current perspective on such critters, what would you then do with your perspective?

These are honest questions. I’m seriously interested in serious RC’s thoughtful and genuine, and earnest answers to those questions.

[Quix]

Are you aware that vis a vis post #435 here [drawings reproduced below]:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2597204/posts?page=435#435

September 20, 2010  Rochester, New York - Beyond the 1958 conversation at Friden, Inc., in Rochester, New York, between technical illustrator John Smith and a secretary from the ATIC division (later Foreign Technology Division, FTD) of Wright-Patterson AFB, three years later in March 1961, he was on vacation with his wife and Aunt Jane at Marineland on the Palos Verdes Peninsula, “when the strangest experience of my life occurred.” I asked him to go back to the moment that the taller, black-haired female swiveled around to face him and to repeat all that happened in more detail, including what images came into his mind from her when he felt so wonderful even when he could not move his body as he leaned against the aquarium ceiling support beam.

Sketch of three blond beings in khaki jump suits with their arms linked together
as well as arm linked with the taller, “cobra-haired” female on far right. Behind
them is John Smith leaning against ceiling support column. His aunt is on the other
side of the column. His wife was further back from aunt and not in sketch.
All were watching the marine creatures swimming in tank at Marineland
in 1961. Illustration © 2010 by John Smith.

Sketch of taller, grey-green skin, “cobra-hair” female on far right
of blond beings at Marineland in 1961. Illustration by John Smith.

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Are you aware that 10's of thousands--actually upwards of 3-4 million individuals in the USA alone--have had contact--alarming contact with such critters?

Are you aware that a huge percentage of those millions have been left with scoop marks, some sort of branding, some sort of technological computer type chip of extremely sophisticated nature--some of which move under their own power when the scalpel approaches them to cut them out . . . as well as, in rare cases, DNA forensically collected that is clearly NONHUMAN?

Other than pretending that such facts are not facts, how do you deal with such evidence?

Or how would you if you were the scientist copiling all those facts?

[NYer]

What 2-3 things MOST convince you of that perspective?

1. No evidence.

2. No evidence.

3. No evidence.

Are you unaware that the Vatican is decidedly and emphatically on the other side of that issue?

The Vatican is open to the possibility of life on other planets. They are waiting for evidence. So far, there is no evidence.

[big'ol_freeper]

Bitter trolls are hard to argue with. Especially when their sanity is in question.

[Quix]

Your sources are evidently depending on only the published accounts of the Vatican’s perspective.

BTW, there’s plenty of evidence.

[Quix]

I see you just got a tanker load of Mary’s sweetness wrapped in white hankies.

Feel better now for such sweet nastiness on your part?

[big'ol_freeper]

A fool needs to be castigated to face his foolishness. I can’t slap you across the cheek, so this is the best I can do. Wake up FRiend. You’re being seriously deceived by the deceiver.

[Legatus]

In my life BC (before CHILDREN) my wife and I used to stay up late listening to Art Bell all the time, for YEARS, I've heard more Richard Hoagland, LMH, et al, than any person who values his sanity ever should. I've even had one totally unexplained "experience". I truly believe there are angels and devils hard at work all around us, probably outnumbering us and never sleeping.

I know I'm crazy. Nevertheless, there are a lot of people out there who don't know they're crazy and they're constantly thinking up signs and wonders for whatever reasons. There are more liars than just those in the government.

As for "the Vatican", I actually posted an article earlier today which deals with this a bit:

Faithful Catholics have rightfully bemoaned the seeming inability of the media to “get the facts straight” when talking about the Church. Many Catholics and non-Catholics, whose opinions are formed by the media instead of by the Church, have very confused notions about how the Church actually works. Even when the media report accurately particularly salacious events surrounding members of the hierarchy, they often ascribe responsibility for those members and their actions to the wrong people. Other times the word of “a senior Vatican official” is made out to be the deposit of faith, and people base their entire view of the Church on the random musings of someone whose real identity could be a Cardinal Prefect of a Congregation of the Roman Curia, or a barely literate Carabiniere whose beat is Piazza San Pietro.

This Romaphobia among Catholics is particularly manifest in the comment sections of blogs. The anonymity of the internet allows people to make unchecked claims all the time, and the momentum of Romaphobic comments grows as other like-minded birds of a feather flock together to air their grievances against the Catholic Church, which they generally reduce to their hatred of the hierarchy, and encapsulate in the four-letter word, “Rome,” even if they also use “Vatican” as a synonym. One has the impression reading articles, books and blog comments of reading nineteenth century Protestant polemic in the style of Maria Monk or the colorful phrases of Martin Luther on a very bad day rather than vehement protests of faithful Catholics who actually love their Church.

Why has this state of affairs come about? Just what is Rome and the Vatican, anyway, and what role does the Pope, Rome, the Catholic Church and the Vatican (words that are used as if they were interchangeable) have in saying anything to anyone?

One of the most perplexing presuppositions of many Romophobes is that the Catholic Church is a highly organized machine, not unlike a cult, which demands and exacts unflinching obedience from its billions of automaton followers who are homogenized into accepting every word of the Pope as divinely revealed. The Pope, then, is responsible for every action of every single one of these automatons, much like a computer programmer is responsible for the error messages that creep up on your computer screen when something has gone wrong. There are many Catholic Romophobes who know that this a caricature of the truth, that even the slightest glance at history could disprove it, but they still feel that behind the caricature there is, not a grain, but a grain silo, of truth.

So "the Vatican" said this and "the Vatican" said that really doesn't say all that much to me. "The Vatican" says all kinds of crazy things... usually in the person of a lunatic dissident who has no legitimate competence to talk about whatever he's talking about.

I think I commented earlier that life on other planets is possible and until we meet these hypothetical aliens we really don't know where they are in the plan of Salvation. We are fallen because of Adam, space aliens probably aren't descended from Adam... barring some really crazy transplanting.

All that said, there is a remarkable convergence in all of the related "news items" lately. The new "earth type planet", the comments from the Vatican astronomer, the UN appointment. It's all very interesting... and entertaining, but I sat through too many late night "hold on to your chairs folks" announcements from the same crowd during the 90s to really take them seriously today.