Posted on 09/27/2010 1:34:18 PM PDT by marbren
One where no one admits to doing it?
I guess it is much better to accept that aliens flew here from another planet in a desperate attempt to contact us by drawing pretty pictures- I can see it now- "quick we have to tell the humans some thing... find ms a farm I can draw on" Apparently tapping one of us on the shoulder and saying “take me to your leader” was not considered.
Evidently further meaningful rational dialogue is not possible.
I tried.
A NON-HOAXED crop formation is one where there are 8-12 or so scienfitically verified distinctives which are
NEVER present in the man-made circles with boards and strings.
It is difficult to understand your unwillingness to acknowledge those distinctives . . .
All—here’s an interesting video with bad language . . . Garden Grove . . . I don’t believe the police are escorting any UFO stuff on the trucks . . . looks like some heavy duty electrical equipment or some such . . . though I could certainly be wrong.
However, the last 1/4th to 1/3rd of the video does show some interesting UFO stuff—particularly a few frames about the 1/4th before the end mark. And it is interesting that the police evidently told the camera car group that there was a lot of danger that they needed to get out of there.
It’s still ‘merely’ lights in the night sky . . . however about 7:20-7:41; 8:10-8:31 & 9:30-end at 9:41 are the more interesting parts of the UFO.
C2C is swamped tonight—can’t access streamlink. Local radio is acting up with it. autobroadcast locally so no personnel at the station to call.
Evidently worth a listen for those who can.
http://www.ghosttheory.com/2010/10/28/ufo-over-knotts-berry-farm
Ahhhhhhh
OK.
THX THX.
Interesting pic.
oOOPS. LEFT THE LINK OFF.
at what minute:second count is the UFO on a truck seen at the first of the video?
Just checked again and didn’t see it.
Here’s the link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O82renvuC9o&feature=player_embedded
I guess it is much better to accept that aliens flew here from another planet and in a desperate attempt to contact us they drew pretty pictures on the ground...
I can see it now- "quick we have to tell the humans some thing... find me some crops I can crush"
Apparently tapping one of us on the shoulder and saying “take me to your leader” was not considered.
There’s a point or question in that post?
Where’s it hidden.
BTW, It’s been documented that Ike met with the critters at Edwards AFB and Holloman AFB.
They’ve been in contact with the globalist puppet masters for decades.
When are you going to deal with the distinctives that are different between the HOAXED vs NON-HOAXED sites. You haven’t touched that one except with glib dismissive irrational nonsense.
You can see the object clearly at exactly 21 seconds into the video. It was very close and down low.
hey, I’m with you on UFO’s. I believe they exist. I beleive Area 51 was a crash and they took them to Ohio.
I even believe Bob Lazaar worked at Groom Lake on reverse-engineering the propulsion systems.
I just think ‘crop circles’ are idiocy.
If a UFO lands in a field I can see it leaving a crop circle. But the funny design ones are all hoaxes. I guarantee it. And it makes us believers (in UFO’s) look silly, when people already want to make us look silly.
Ignoring the very solid scientific evidence
is what’s silly.
I don’t understand your doing it.
BELIEF/DISBELIEF is not the same as scientific evidence.
THX THX.
I think there’s some stuff on ATS. Haven’t gotten to it yet.
Basically,
you are saying that
crop circles can’t be unhoaxed
BECAUSE
YOU
in your omniscient wisdom and knowledge
have decreed that they cannot be true and unhoaxed.
You have not dealt rationally nor remotely solidly nor even AT ALL
with a SINGLE ONE of the scientifically verified distinctivves in the UNHOAXED circles.
Pretending THAT kind of denial, avoidance and dismissive is rational and scientific
is beyond absurdly silly.
Hmmmmm
Don’t know why I’m missing it.
I’ve watched from 15 seconds to 25 seconds repeatedly and don’t see anything that really looks like a UFO or even an orb, to me.
If we divided the screen up into 4 sections vertically and horizontally . . .
and numbered each resulting square beginning with 1 in the upper left hand corner and the square to the right of that one #2 . . . etc. what number square would it be in? How big is it? What does it look like?
from:
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1776&category=Environment
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Eyewitness Astonished As Wheat Circle Formed © 2010 by Linda Moulton Howe
“Some force (from UFO?) was shaking the wheat - Pasquale Galante, English Teacher
The modern age of crop circle formations began in the 1980s in the region of Hampshire and Wiltshire Counties of southern England. Researcher and photographer Lucy Pringle described in her 1999 book, Crop Circles: The Greatest Mystery of Modern Times, one eyewitness case. Around 5:30 PM on July 11, 1981, in Westbury, Wiltshire, researcher Ray Barnes watched seed heads on a crop “jiggle” as if shaken while a “wave or line” of invisible force moved in an arc across the field. Then in only a few seconds, a section of the crop went down in a neat circle. Two years later at the end of August 1983, near Lancaster, Pennsylvania, west of Philadelphia, another eyewitness watched in amazement as wheat heads also jiggled back and forth before going down in a circle. That summer, Pasquale Galante was 37 years old and studying with a Buddhist group at Haverford College. One evening around 9 PM after meditation, Pasquale was approached by a couple who told him there was a huge crop formation near Lancaster about 45 minutes from where they were at the college. Lancaster is about 70 miles west of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Pasquale decided to follow the couple in his station wagon to see the crop mystery. They pulled their cars off to the side of a road in Lancaster farm country. The moon was nearly full, so it was not difficult to see as they began walking up a small hill on the edge of the farm. The couple told Pasquale the big crop circles were right over the hill. But before the three reached the top, what appeared in the sky above the wheat field stopped them in astonishment. Interview: Pasquale Galante, English Teacher, Santa Barbara, California: “As soon as I started getting to the top of the little hill, all of a sudden I was aware of some kind of energy. Three or four things happened simultaneously. There was a kind of humming sound. The wind picked up a lot and as the wind picked up, I noticed the field of grain to my right. I’m pretty sure it was wheat and it started shaking back and forth. And almost immediately after the wheat started shaking, it started spinning. I’m sure it spun clockwise. But at the same time, I was aware of this force field, this energy, and then it was like an ozone smell. And I heard humming – and this was all happening pretty much simultaneously – it only lasted about 30 seconds realistically. When I heard the humming sound, I think I looked up a little and then I saw the craft. At first when I saw the craft, what intrigued me was that it had these little portholes above the center edge and it kind of looked like what people draw a traditional spacecraft where it was wider in the center with little humps on the top and bottom. But what intrigued me was there were lights all around the center that I was facing.
In reality the shape was in flux. I saw what I thought were windows and I drew them as I remember. The lights are a little more vague in my memory, but the image was morphing into the second picture (below), which then had the bottom piece opening and then closing.” Illustration © 2010 by Pasquale Galante.
HOW HIGH ABOVE YOU? About 40 feet away from my left and it was about 40 feet above the ground. . . . SO YOU ARE PRETTY CLOSE. Yes, pretty close because I was afraid the beings would shut off whatever they started because I felt this surge going through me. WHEN YOU SAY YOU FELT A SURGE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? When the whirling sound and the wind and the grain started vibrating and the humming sound, I felt kind of a power going through me, an actual physical power. I don’t know what it was, but it was almost like I was afraid to move and I was hoping that it wouldn’t get too intense. It was almost like a cellular vibration in the sense that I felt something surging, especially through my left side more than the right. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING BOTH IN THE FIELD AND IN THE CRAFT? The craft disappeared before the wheat totally flattened down. After the lights went off, the center, which was to my right, the bottom dropped down like a cargo hull. It dropped down about 20 feet and there were two sides like a traditional cargo hull dropping down, but it came out of a seamless thing. I didn’t see any seams that it came from. So, it was almost like someone’s jaw dropping.
It descended just like any ramp - similar to one on a big cargo plane. I could see ‘inside,’ but what I saw was still only five or ten feet inside and all I saw was the inside of this opening - nothing else. I was to the left, and all I saw was more of the ramp. To me, this device was shaped a lot like a bull dozer front.” Illustration © 2010 by Pasquale Galante.
WHAT WAS THE SHAPE OF THAT SPACE THAT WAS MADE WHEN IT DROPPED DOWN. Pretty much rectangular and dark and I got a little frightened thinking, ‘Oh, I don’t know that I need any more of this!’ (laughs) I don’t want contact. SO YOU WERE AFRAID THAT BEINGS MIGHT BE COMING DOWN AT THAT POINT? Yes, I didn’t know what to think but whatever it was – remote-controlled or if there were beings in there that I didn’t see – I felt there were two beings there, but I had no idea if they were really in there or were in another ship viewing that? But then the underneath portal closed up again. The bottom closed up and then the craft disappeared almost immediately. It just dissolved really quickly. THE WHOLE CRAFT? The whole craft just dissolved. WAS IT A DISC-SHAPED CRAFT? It was a disc, but it wasn’t a flat one. It had ‘bumps’ on the top and bottom. THIS LARGE DISC-LIKE CRAFT DISSOLVED IN THE AIR ABOVE YOU? Yeah, it took about a half a second and it dissolved really quickly.
Wheat Shakes, Twists and Flattens WHAT WAS THE VERY NEXT THING THAT OCCURRED? The whirling sound from I guess the UFO and that smell in the air got stronger and the wheat was going around more and more clockwise. I did look down and kept watching the formation of the circle. It was kind of swaying and circling, each stalk. Then some how the stalks were going down and when they got down, they were still circling, but on a different axis. When they were circling on an angle, they were hitting each other and some of them were getting entwined. That’s what I found intriguing. Some force (from UFO?) was shaking the wheat with two different forces at once and the plants got down pretty flat. We went over and looked. The stems were not broken. That astounded me! I couldn’t find any of the grains that were broken. DESCRIBE WHAT YOU SAW WHEN YOU BENT OVER TO LOOK AT THE STALKS WHERE THEY WERE COMING OUT OF THE GROUND? That was the part that I think that I thought, ‘Oh, that’s astounding!’ None of them broke. The grains - they were almost full grown 2.5 to 3 feet high. Each one of the stalks was about 3 or 4 or 5 inches from each other. We looked at how flat it was – it went down to less than a foot high. ARE YOU LOOKING AT A CIRCLE SHAPE IN THE WHEAT? Yeah, well I was standing right on the edge of it, so I was really close. So, it looked like a circle, but it wasn’t that big. I’d say the diameter of the wheat circle we witnesses was probably 60 feet in diameter, say, between 40 and 60 feet. It was the motion that intrigued me like how it kind of got woven even though no one was weaving it. I would say these were two different, simultaneous forces. .
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Joe,
I’m not seeing the UFO in this video . . . evidently at the 21 seconds into it . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O82renvuC9o&feature=player_embedded
Could you please look at it closely from 15 seconds to 25 seconds and if you see it—give us a screen capture?
It supposedly looks somewhat like this one:
http://www.ghosttheory.com/2010/10/28/ufo-over-knotts-berry-farm
If anyone else can help, please do.
I’m just not seeing it in the police escort video.
It’s at 7:37 and thereafter. But it doesnt look like the photo at Knotts Berry Farm.
Famed NASA Astronaut confirms Extraterrestrials are here
by Clark C. McClelland, former ScO, U.S. Space Shuttle Fleet, KSC, Florida 1958 to 1992
Space Shuttle Columbia during STS-80 took a crew of five astronauts into a 17 day, 15 hour and 54 minute mission around the earth, the longest flight in the history of this vehicle. During this lengthy flight a very strange event occurred that even had crewman Dr. Story Musgrave unable to explain what he observed from the shuttle windows.
A large disc shaped object appeared below the Columbia. The shuttle was approximately, 190 Nautical miles high.
The disc was first observed to miraculously appear from out of nowhere, flying through the clouds below and progressing from right to left as the astronauts stared in utter amazement. The outer rim of the craft appeared to be rotating counter-clockwise. It was very large (compared to common space junk and breakaway ice), approximately 50 to 150 feet in diameter.
Astronaut Dr. Story Musgrave, a Payload Specialist on the STS-80 Mission, was interviewed following the flight. As he viewed a videotape of the incident which showed lightning flashes in the atmosphere, the city lights of Denver, Colorado and other earthbound sights, he stated: “I don’t know what it is. Whether it’s a washer, debris, ice particles, I don’t know. But it’s characteristic of the thousands of things which I’ve seen. What is not so characteristic is it appears to come from no where. You would think that if it’s facing the dark side or facing a side towards you which is not reflecting the sun, you would think that you would see something there. It’s really impressive.”
Story Musgrave (STS-80).
During an earlier interview, Dr. Musgrave stated he attempted to communicate with ET life forms during each of his six missions. He actually asked them to take him with them. Now that’s an astronaut with a lot of courage. Dr. Musgrave retired after this flight from NASA. Since then he’s been spreading his considered opinion that alien life exists. When Musgrave speaks of this, it’s no great leap for one to assume he’s admitting knowledge of alien life. As the final slide of a “Grey” ET was shown during a recent astronomy presentation by Dr. Musgrave, he made this surprising comment: “These guys are real... I guarantee it!” Dr. Musgrave does know the truth. This author guarantees it!
Consider that carefully. These are world renown scientists making statements almost beyond belief. Dr. von Braun and others of his stature have the courage to disclose “sensitive” information, but obviously the leaders of the USA and the world do not. If billions could find a way of coping with the overwhelming threat of atomic annihilation for half a century, it is reasonable to assume we can cope with the knowledge of these “Other Intelligence’s” from the stars. We can cope with the fact they are visiting earth, and have been since the beginning of history. We must. Those still asleep must open their eyes. We Are Not Alone.
About the author:
Clark C. McClelland, former ScO, Space Shuttle Fleet, KSC, Florida 1958 to 1992. Former Director, NICAP Unit-3 at Cape Canaveral and KSC, former MUFON Assistant Florida State Director, and former Director, Kennedy Space Center MUFON Unit, KSC.
LINK = http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/11/09/01935.html
Open the youtube link, slide the bar to approximately the 7:37 mark. Quickly click on play/pause buttom twice and the screen will jump (for me) in approximately 1/2 second intervals .
I agree with texas_mrs: "But it doesnt look like the photo at Knotts Berry Farm."
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