[Utah Binger]

If folks can lay aside the distracting religious infighting, the tale of Hoffman is fascinating indeed.

My reason for posting has to do with the business of forgery and trickery and the fact that the very elect can be deceived due to their greed and sometimes their desperate wishes to make something real that is not.

As a fine art dealer, I see this all the time. When values escalate, the tricksters come out of the woodwork. For instance, in the world of fine art, I can point to several fake pieces of art being offered on eBay every day.

[Utah Binger]

In my opinion, this is the most Objective Account

[MinuteGal]

I agree with what you posit as your reason for posting. That's why I mentioned I hoped this thread wouldn't turn into a debate on Mormanism. Duping and being duped cuts across all lines. This has been true since the beginning of time.

Hoffman's scam was complex and riveting in its execution. It'll be worth watching the interview with his former wife on Wednesday.

The series "American Greed" running on CNBC for, lo, these many months, is also fascinating. It's produced by Bill Kurtis which means it's high quality and well-done. It focuses on corporate and white collar crimes, including insurance fraud, embezzlements, art theft, ponzi schemes, credit card and medical frauds, bank robbery, money laundering, identity theft and related murders....all the skin games you love to touch, LOL.

It's an eye-opening series.

Leni

[colorcountry]

My reason for posting has to do with the business of forgery and trickery and the fact that the very elect can be deceived due to their greed and sometimes their desperate wishes to make something real that is not.

It seems you are pretty good at detecting "fakes" of all kinds. There are tricksters posing as "oh, so good consevatives" here on FR too.

Thanks for posting the thread.