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1 posted on 09/20/2010 11:39:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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So you mean there is no chance of me forgetting the past two years?


2 posted on 09/20/2010 11:41:28 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: nickcarraway

That period was one of the worst witch-hunt periods in American history.


5 posted on 09/20/2010 11:46:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ([fear of Islam.] Once you are paralyzed by fear of Mohammedanism...you have lost the battle.)
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To: nickcarraway

Looks like a large number of psychologists will be eating at the soup kitchens.


6 posted on 09/20/2010 11:54:08 PM PDT by monocle
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To: nickcarraway

How many families and lives were ruined by this B.S.? They should be held accountable.


7 posted on 09/20/2010 11:55:11 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: nickcarraway
Professor Grant Devilly

C'mon. This is a made-up name, right?

8 posted on 09/21/2010 12:01:52 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: nickcarraway
But Professor McNally says some abuse victims do suffer when they reassess childhood experiences much later.

"Seeing the event through the eyes of adult, they realise what has happened to them and now they experience the emotional turmoil of trauma," he said.


Someone who agrees but ascribes the trauma of non-forced encounters to the abuse of therapists and imposition of societal judgements: The Trauma Myth by Susan A. Clancy, Ph.D.
9 posted on 09/21/2010 12:07:15 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL OR REBEL! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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I don’t know if all repressed memories are false. I supervised an employee who seemed to struggle with something. She always wrung her hands or ‘washed’ them (referring to the motion of smoothing one cupped hand over the other, in turn)while speaking to me. She had a worried look on her face and tension - really tightly wrapped. She actually stressed me out with her tone of voice, facial expression and gestures. She started going to a therapist. She starts unearthing buried memories - father raped her. She conflicts with her family in the present over this issue and their behavior doesn’t seem normal (if he was innocent, of course they would be appalled and angry but they were just plain WEIRD about it). This possible rape explains some of her mothers focused hostility toward her (unlike behavior toward her siblings), perhaps. After ‘facing’ the childhood rape etc. she becomes...well..normal. No more nervous stress, no more ‘hand washing’ gestures, great deal of peace and calm. So does this mean just ‘venting’ on any imagined abuse works or does it mean there really was something she was fighting to keep hidden from herself to avoid ‘rocking the boat’?
And something that strikes me about this research is that, unlike studies and experiments that contribute to a body of research - this study is taken as the ‘final’ answer or the ‘true’ study. This seems a little unusual. Was the study so large and so complete that no further investigation is necessary? The truth is known? Like global warming’s inconvenient truth? ‘Scientists now agree?’


10 posted on 09/21/2010 12:10:01 AM PDT by ransomnote
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My own personal experience suggests that one may re-act the experience while simultaneously suppressing recall of the original event. Eventually, I recalled the original trauma and released it (it was child rape). Once found, the symptoms were gone for good. It was all done without the aid of a therapist or any source of external suggestion. I even know the first name of the perp and have since found he did the same to others. They too appear to have somewhat related problems.
12 posted on 09/21/2010 12:30:11 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: nickcarraway

I vaguely remember the 60s.


13 posted on 09/21/2010 12:54:31 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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"We're now getting, at the end of between 8 and 12 sessions, 90 to 92 per cent of people no longer meet the criteria for PTSD," he said.

PTSD can take YEARS to get over especially when it is complicated by other disorders which can trigger it. If a person is rid of PTSD in 8-12 sessions it would be a miracle.

I would tend more to thing in some mental traumas the brain does for self preservation sake hide it if the event can not be handled at that time. It may come out later by a triggering event.

I shy away from mental health put it all in one box this is fact thinking. Doing so has prevented many person from getting the proper help they needed because the shrink said something doesn't work that way when in fact for a different cause it will.

I've had General Anxiety Disorder PTSD and OCB all at the same time and hit me all at the same time. The OCB went away when I medically retired. It was a over compensation method my brain was using to deal with another problem which effected memory and concentration. It took me several years to get rid of the PTSD. Makes sense to me because the events over several years of my life lead to me developing in and not one event all in itself.

With General Anxiety Disorder some persons can be cured some people can not. A traumatized person will have good results many times with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. I can not. With me it would be torture and avoidance or limited exposures to what triggers my attacks is a medical necessity as it is a neurological impairment causing it.

Antidepressants are often used for G.A.D. Antidepressants for someone like me are real bad news. It can cause a Serotonin migration. This is because there are several causes including but not limited to traumatic events and Sensory Processing Disorders. Each requires a very different treatment plan both medication wise and for any effective therapy. Meaning in my case a dysfunctional sight or sound or both can trigger anxiety attacks even to the point of seizures like me. I am not scared of the events they agiatate me.

I was told by several psychiatrist it did not work like that LOL. Funny thing a Neurologist made the connection of Vestibular Disorders causing anxiety in the mid 1970's. A search of Vestibular Disorders +Anxiety turns up a bunch of hits in Vestibular web sites but very few if any in mental health sites. I got rid of two of the three and it took several years.

My wife had a traumatic childhood and much of her memory is repressed. Some of it finally started surfacing and it took a lot of patience and time to put some of the pieces together. She has PTSD and will likely never be over it.

19 posted on 09/21/2010 3:02:32 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: nickcarraway

Thank goodness! I can ignore that letter trying to make me recall a repressed memory of an unpaid bill.
I’m impressed that my repressed and depressed memory need not be expressed.


20 posted on 09/21/2010 3:09:11 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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DUH - now can we get pardons and apologies to the Fells Acres folks who had their lives destroyed by the total BS witchhunt of “scary clowns with knives” and other repressed memory BS testimony forced out of children?

What about the witchhunt in Washington State that destroyed families?


25 posted on 09/21/2010 5:28:54 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Conservatives want a CHOICE not an echo - No more RINOs!)
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To: nickcarraway; decimon; neverdem; Coleus

This joker (I cleaned that up) has no idea what he’s talking about.

Neither do those “no such thing as hypnosis” jackasses.

For that matter, neither do those who attribute Multiple Personality Disorder symptoms to demonic possession.

Thanks nickcarraway.


27 posted on 09/21/2010 3:59:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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the two quoted in the excerpt are odd bedfellows:
31 posted on 09/21/2010 8:12:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: DixieOklahoma; reuben barruchstein; theprophetyellszambolamboromo; Alusch; house of cards; ...

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32 posted on 09/21/2010 9:35:58 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: nickcarraway; giotto

There’s not nearly enough information in the article to make a conclusion either way. It appears to simply be the opinions of one or two psychologists.

I absolutely believe that false memories could be “planted” by a therapist — well-intentioned or not. But I think giotto’s assessment, esp. in the case of children, is quite likely.


33 posted on 09/22/2010 5:30:27 AM PDT by workerbee (FAIL, BABY, FAIL!)
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