Posted on 08/18/2010 11:15:27 AM PDT by Swordmaker
No, I didn't. I don't know you, don't care and speak only to the facts. Any emotion you think you read into this is your own projection. This is my only comment about you. Now and ever. Do you work for Apple or have some emotional connection to them? This? Again? WTF? OK, Yes, I am Steve Jobs.... uh, uhm... Sister. Yeah, that's it. I am Steve Jobs' sister. Make any difference?
Oh, emotions again... uhm... "hi". That's about the level I can muster on this tangent. Apple has shown a distinct preference for closed systems since its inception.
Apple? Closed? Man bites dog. That is hardly news or post worthy. And who cares? I prefer it that way. I guess others prefer viruses and spyware in their unregulated wild apps. That's the only thing that IS closed. What Apps they allow on the App store. The core OS is no more closed than any other and is based on FreeBSD.
So what other closed could you mean?
Remember how they killed their own clone market?
What is this? "johhny this is your life"??
They didn't KILL their "own" clone market they SUED THE FRAK out of pirates and thieves and WON. THEN and now again with PissStar.
Apple sells hardware...the future is software.
Oh this isn't even funny. Apple is NOT a hardware vendor. Apple is a PRODUCT creator. They make wholistic complete and integrated solutions which WORK without the problems of the rest of the world who makes junk FOR others or is stuck with trying to make some generic software run on the stuff they make.
This is why they can, do and will MAKE MORE MONEY. Which is all anyone who invests in them should care about and all anyone who wants a seemlessly working product should know.
If you get your software in every ecosystem and dominate...you win.
Then, I guess that's why you made this a "10 year" thing.
Well, if any of us are around in 10 years and still care, I'll see ya then.
Yet you chose to insist that Apple will dominate? Your logic leaves my assertions just as valid as yours. And yes, if Apple refuses to open its closed system I will stand by my prediction.
Every time Apple has succeeded it has been by opening up a closed system. The iPod was a closed system and nearly a failure until iTunes for Windows. The Mac has found new life since switching to a Unix-based open-source OS and using Intel CPUs. Apple does usually recognize, albeit late in the game, that they have shot themselves in the foot with their closed systems. At some juncture Steve Jobs will miss the boat on opening such a system...he can’t help himself.
Hmmm...sounds pretty emotional to me. Bye.
My wife and I both own droids. Mine is Motorola , hers is HTC. The only reason we have them is that we are on Verizon.
The day Verizon has the I-phone, we will switch to the I-Phone.
Uh, no, he didn't. He specified which phone vendors where included and why:
"The first chart shows the EBIT from the top seven vendors of mobile phones since the quarter when the iPhone launched. I annotated Nokia and Apples bars to give perspective."
HTC was not in the top seven. US figures were not considered... this was WORLD WIDE Vendors... the statistics are correct.
HTC was left out of the TOP SEVEN because the TOP SEVEN does not include the TOP TEN... At least not in any TOP SEVEN list I've ever seen...
Excuse me, that is revisionist history. Apple NEVER had the major share of the business market with their hardware. NEVER. Business was on Mainframes... and MINI computers... made by IBM and DEC and Honeywell and SPERRY... and other companies not Apple. They went with what they knew. And IBM came out with a desktop microcomputer and buyers bought what they knew. IBM. Which happened to have a Disk Operating System bought essentially off the shelf from a little known company called Microsoft.
Look at the chart for Q22010... and you'll see the Android effect on Motorola... it's no longer in the below zero profit margin area.
That is an event that takes place ONLY in the last quarter of the multi-quarter study this article reports on... and HTC does not rise INTO the TOP SEVEN that are being studied. It only makes it to EIGHTH. As a result, it is not even a blip on this study... yet.
Both LG (#3) and Samsung (#2) have some of their phones running Android. But not all.
What cost premium? The iPhone 3Gs is currently available from Apple and AT&T for $99 on contract. The iPhone4 is currently available from Apple and AT&T for $199 on contract for $199. You will find the fancy Android smartphones are available for prices that are at the same price points with contracts. Where are the cost premiums you are claiming?
That thinking prevailed briefly awhile back and Jobs was ousted. Your thinking is what almost DID put Apple out of business. I am continuously amazed by backbenchers who post here about how Apple is doing everything wrong while Apple continues to grow and amaze the naysayers.
Is Apple in a far better position now or when they licensed their OS? I really don’t think the data backs up the position that Apple should license their software. It takes a lot of OS X license to equal one MBP.
It will be just as valid 10 years from now as it was 20 years ago. A straw man argument that leads nowhere.
Apple makes money, not commodity junk, there is plenty of that available for you to purchase, so enjoy.
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