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Android’s Pursuit of the Biggest Losers
Asymco ^ | August 17, 2010

Posted on 08/18/2010 11:15:27 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: The Unknown Republican
By the way, you seem to have taken my comments personally.

No, I didn't. I don't know you, don't care and speak only to the facts. Any emotion you think you read into this is your own projection. This is my only comment about you. Now and ever. Do you work for Apple or have some emotional connection to them? This? Again? WTF? OK, Yes, I am Steve Jobs.... uh, uhm... Sister. Yeah, that's it. I am Steve Jobs' sister. Make any difference?

Oh, emotions again... uhm... "hi". That's about the level I can muster on this tangent. Apple has shown a distinct preference for closed systems since its inception.

Apple? Closed? Man bites dog. That is hardly news or post worthy. And who cares? I prefer it that way. I guess others prefer viruses and spyware in their unregulated wild apps. That's the only thing that IS closed. What Apps they allow on the App store. The core OS is no more closed than any other and is based on FreeBSD.

So what other closed could you mean?

Remember how they killed their own clone market?

What is this? "johhny this is your life"??

They didn't KILL their "own" clone market they SUED THE FRAK out of pirates and thieves and WON. THEN and now again with PissStar.

Apple sells hardware...the future is software.

Oh this isn't even funny. Apple is NOT a hardware vendor. Apple is a PRODUCT creator. They make wholistic complete and integrated solutions which WORK without the problems of the rest of the world who makes junk FOR others or is stuck with trying to make some generic software run on the stuff they make.

This is why they can, do and will MAKE MORE MONEY. Which is all anyone who invests in them should care about and all anyone who wants a seemlessly working product should know.

If you get your software in every ecosystem and dominate...you win.

Then, I guess that's why you made this a "10 year" thing.

Well, if any of us are around in 10 years and still care, I'll see ya then.

21 posted on 08/18/2010 2:46:19 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: RachelFaith

Yet you chose to insist that Apple will dominate? Your logic leaves my assertions just as valid as yours. And yes, if Apple refuses to open its closed system I will stand by my prediction.

Every time Apple has succeeded it has been by opening up a closed system. The iPod was a closed system and nearly a failure until iTunes for Windows. The Mac has found new life since switching to a Unix-based open-source OS and using Intel CPUs. Apple does usually recognize, albeit late in the game, that they have shot themselves in the foot with their closed systems. At some juncture Steve Jobs will miss the boat on opening such a system...he can’t help himself.


22 posted on 08/18/2010 2:54:42 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: RachelFaith

Hmmm...sounds pretty emotional to me. Bye.


23 posted on 08/18/2010 2:56:58 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: Swordmaker

My wife and I both own droids. Mine is Motorola , hers is HTC. The only reason we have them is that we are on Verizon.
The day Verizon has the I-phone, we will switch to the I-Phone.


24 posted on 08/18/2010 5:24:17 PM PDT by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
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To: ConservativeMind
Uh, this idiot of a researcher left out HTC.

Uh, no, he didn't. He specified which phone vendors where included and why:

"The first chart shows the EBIT from the top seven vendors of mobile phones since the quarter when the iPhone launched. I annotated Nokia and Apple’s bars to give perspective."

HTC was not in the top seven. US figures were not considered... this was WORLD WIDE Vendors... the statistics are correct.

25 posted on 08/19/2010 12:33:13 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
PS: You left HTC off (since they just broke into the top 10 device manufacturers). Watch them.

HTC was left out of the TOP SEVEN because the TOP SEVEN does not include the TOP TEN... At least not in any TOP SEVEN list I've ever seen...

26 posted on 08/19/2010 12:35:11 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: The Unknown Republican
Apple had the major share of the business market with their hardware, but Microsoft won with their OS.

Excuse me, that is revisionist history. Apple NEVER had the major share of the business market with their hardware. NEVER. Business was on Mainframes... and MINI computers... made by IBM and DEC and Honeywell and SPERRY... and other companies not Apple. They went with what they knew. And IBM came out with a desktop microcomputer and buyers bought what they knew. IBM. Which happened to have a Disk Operating System bought essentially off the shelf from a little known company called Microsoft.

27 posted on 08/19/2010 12:39:26 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: Mr. Blonde
Seems like Motorola’s gains would be attributable to Android.

Look at the chart for Q22010... and you'll see the Android effect on Motorola... it's no longer in the below zero profit margin area.

28 posted on 08/19/2010 12:42:53 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: smokingfrog
HTC hits top 10, Android Surges

That is an event that takes place ONLY in the last quarter of the multi-quarter study this article reports on... and HTC does not rise INTO the TOP SEVEN that are being studied. It only makes it to EIGHTH. As a result, it is not even a blip on this study... yet.

Both LG (#3) and Samsung (#2) have some of their phones running Android. But not all.

29 posted on 08/19/2010 12:48:24 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: The Unknown Republican
I believe Apple is making the same mistake in the mobile space that they made in the desktop space. Their cost premium and proprietary OS will be their ultimate undoing.

What cost premium? The iPhone 3Gs is currently available from Apple and AT&T for $99 on contract. The iPhone4 is currently available from Apple and AT&T for $199 on contract for $199. You will find the fancy Android smartphones are available for prices that are at the same price points with contracts. Where are the cost premiums you are claiming?

30 posted on 08/19/2010 1:54:39 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: The Unknown Republican; RachelFaith
I believe Apple is making the same mistake in the mobile space that they made in the desktop space. Their cost premium and proprietary OS will be their ultimate undoing.

That thinking prevailed briefly awhile back and Jobs was ousted. Your thinking is what almost DID put Apple out of business. I am continuously amazed by backbenchers who post here about how Apple is doing everything wrong while Apple continues to grow and amaze the naysayers.

31 posted on 08/19/2010 4:46:28 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: The Unknown Republican

Is Apple in a far better position now or when they licensed their OS? I really don’t think the data backs up the position that Apple should license their software. It takes a lot of OS X license to equal one MBP.


32 posted on 08/19/2010 4:46:39 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: The Unknown Republican
f Apple refuses to open its closed system I will stand by my prediction.

It will be just as valid 10 years from now as it was 20 years ago. A straw man argument that leads nowhere.

Apple makes money, not commodity junk, there is plenty of that available for you to purchase, so enjoy.

33 posted on 08/19/2010 11:41:53 AM PDT by itsahoot (Republican leadership got us here, only God can get us out.)
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