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To: Michael Zak; jessduntno; An.American.Expatriate; Repeat Offender; lentulusgracchus
....seven states illegally declared their “independence” from the United States before Lincoln was sworn in as President

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I've spared a few minutes for this Mr. Zak. That evil word called ' work ' that many Blue Staters will never understand, which took me away this mornin'.

The Federal Constitution is silent on the issue of Secession, therefore; we must look at the 'intent', and what the sales staff ( Madison, ETC ) sold to the several States. I'll get to the Federalist papers in another post, if you respond to this by John Q Adams :

With these qualifications, we may admit the same right as vested in the people of every state in the Union, with reference to the General Government, which was exercised by the people of the United Colonies, with reference to the Supreme head of the British empire, of which they formed a part - and under these limitations, have the people of each state in the Union a right to secede from the confederated Union itself.

Thus stands the RIGHT. But the indissoluble link of union between the people of the several states of this confederated nation, is after all, not in the right, but in the heart. If the day should ever come, (may Heaven avert it,) when the affections of the people of these states shall be alienated from each other; when the fraternal spirit shall give away to cold indifference, or collisions of interest shall fester into hatred, the bands of political association will not long hold together parties no longer attracted by the magnetism of conciliated interests and kindly sympathies; and far better will it be for the people of the disunited states, to part in friendship from each other, than to be held together by constraint. Then will be the time for reverting to the precedents which occurred at the formation and adoption of the Constitution, to form again a more perfect union, by dissolving that which could no longer bind, and to leave the separated parts to be reunited by the law of political gravitation to the center.

583 posted on 08/14/2010 5:34:34 PM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY !")
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To: Idabilly

Brilliant strategy, by Grand old Part-of-the-Problem ... alienate all of the south, most of the west and ANYONE ELSE WHO KNOWS HISTORY, pander to blacks WHO WILL NEVER VOTE FOR a Republican and continue that grand tradition of losing the big votes by the RINO’s they back against the voice of the People ... or the Tea Party ... just brilliant!


584 posted on 08/14/2010 6:25:32 PM PDT by jessduntno (I wonder...how will third Manassas turn out?)
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To: Idabilly
The Federal Constitution is silent on the issue of Secession, therefore; we must look at the 'intent', and what the sales staff ...

Why? If the Constitution is silent on a subject, then the constitution does not prohibit it. The whole "founders intent" argument is BS. The constitution is a clear and concise document and requires no clarification of intent!

585 posted on 08/15/2010 1:43:31 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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