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To: edge919

You shouldn’t have to say or speculate. If Obama was as transparent as he pretends, he would have simply released a long-form birth certificate two years ago.


And you would accept a document released by Obama to be authentic? That’s interesting.

The state of Hawaii only produces the computerized version Certification of Live Birth since 2001, so if a long form were to be released, it would be a copy of Obama’s original that the Obama administration would produce.

On top of that, there is no additional information on a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth that is relevant to eligibility to be president.


522 posted on 06/27/2010 8:30:34 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
If Obama was as transparent as he pretends, he would have simply released a long-form birth certificate two years ago.

Actually, he hasn't even really "released" a COLB. If he did you would be able to order a certified copy from Hawaii for ten bucks or whatever their fee is. But you cannot.

ML/NJ

531 posted on 06/27/2010 10:38:02 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: jamese777

You said, “The state of Hawaii only produces the computerized version Certification of Live Birth since 2001, so if a long form were to be released, it would be a copy of Obama’s original that the Obama administration would produce.

On top of that, there is no additional information on a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth that is relevant to eligibility to be president.”

They computerized their files. Now what is sent in response to a request for a birth certificate is the “short-form”, computer printed, certified and embossed copy. HOWEVER, the originals are still on file in Hawaii. Upon request of the person named on the birth certificate OR upon request of a court of law, they WILL produce and/or copy and certify the ORIGINAL long-form birth certificate. That would be the one with the doctor’s name on it.

As for whether the current short form contains all information necessary to prove eligibility for POTUS, that all depends upon what the definition of “natural born citizen” is.

This is something that no court has yet sufficiently defined, although most who have studied the issue with an open mind must come to the conclusion that a person must be born to TWO U.S. citizens and (in most cases) on U.S. soil.

The COLB on FactCheck does not specify the birth place or citizenship of his parents. Polarik contends that the newest version of COLBs now (perhaps, oh, too conveniently) contains that information.

IF Obama wanted the original long-form birth certificate released, he could have that done, post haste. He could release all of the ORIGINAL document(s), whatever they are, if he cared to do so.

IF he’s telling the truth about his background, his parentage, his place of birth, his eligibility for the presidency, there’s no LOGICAL reason for him to spend thousands of dollars and waste the time and resources of the judiciary (paid for by taxpayers, btw) to prevent showing documentation that will prove that he’s telling the truth. Is there?


542 posted on 06/27/2010 3:16:13 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: jamese777
And you would accept a document released by Obama to be authentic?

Two years ago, yes. Not now.

The state of Hawaii only produces the computerized version Certification of Live Birth since 2001, so if a long form were to be released, it would be a copy of Obama’s original that the Obama administration would produce.

This isn't completely true. Law requires them to keep original docs on file. They could produce a photocopy.

On top of that, there is no additional information on a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth that is relevant to eligibility to be president.

You don't know that. The additional info would prove Obama committed fraud and/or had amendments made that further invalidate his alleged COLB.

595 posted on 06/30/2010 12:13:27 PM PDT by edge919
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