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I’m sorry for being unclear. Everything cycles. Everything. So the cycles of liberty and oppresssion cycle as well, as you just illustrated. I did not mean to imply that from 10,000 BC to the end of historic time, all liberty would plunge toward oppression irretrievably.

I was talking very specifically about the USA today. I consider it inevitable that in a few generations time, 3 or 4, that the US government will be an oppressive socialist or communist totalitarian dictatorship. While we Conservatives fight against this outcome, I believe that the best we can achieve is to delay this outcome. I do not believe we can prevent it — only delay it.

There are many people here who think that we can actually prevent a fall into socialist opression, or think we can actually restore our lost freedoms. I don’t believe that will happen. I believe some of us will fight toward that end, but will fail, sold out by the masses of uninformed, immoral, dependent voters who will sell us into tyranny with their votes for more giveways in echange for their giving the US central government more and more power.

I outlined the reasons for my belief this will happen, in the post you originally responded to.

Assuming I am correct for arguments sake, assuming the mass of ignorant voters allows totalitarian US central government authority, I said we will not be able to get our freedoms back unless or until we becomes so oppressed that we feel we have nothing to lose, and rediscover spiritual faith as a people, as a nation, so as to find the courage to demand a restoration of our constitutional rights.

I didn’t mean to say that liberty can’t possibly ever come from tyranny.

I meant to say that I believe the USA will inevtitably become a socialist/communist totalitarian dictatorship whether this occurs in 2 generations or 5, that there are insufficient numbers of rabid freedom-worshipping Americans who demand liberty above all money, leisure or security, to prevent this inevitable outcome, and that once the totalitarian authority is intrenched, we will not be able to cast off the yoke of this tyranny for a long, long time thereafter.