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4 8 15 16 23 42 - Official Lost Season 6 Thread
Posted on 05/23/2010 5:07:40 PM PDT by Lucky9teen
4 8 15 16 23 42 - Official Lost Season 6 Thread
The entire flash “sideways” in the show occurs after they are all dead. Some soon; i.e. Boone. Some later -> Jack. Some waayy later -> Hurley (how many hundreds of years later), the new “Jacob” was semi-eternal.
The reference to everything that happened, happened was the dialog between Hurley and Ben “You were a great #1. You were a great #2” means that Hurley and Ben were the replacements for Jacob and Alpert. Even the semi-eternal die eventually.
They all eventually died and that trigger brought them all together in the afterlife. Why? Because of the shared experience on the island and the love that they had for each other. All of them, even Ben.
To answer your question: The plane at the end was Lapidus’ plane carrying Miles, Alpert, Kate, Sawyer, and Claire off the island and to points unknown. Jack dies at that point when the plane flies over.
Did they show alternate endings on Kimmel? I got a text from a friend who said they were actually Kimmel skits????? If thats true then a BIG f u to ABC
They were joke endings. Kinda funny.
joke endings?? When ABC says “watch Jimmy Kimmel for alternate endings” then I expect a freaking real alternate ending. Not a skit from a unfunny comic.
Was it the first level of purgatory, a lower plane of existence, or what? What the heck WAS the smoke monster? The Egyptian crap? The ability of these beings to roam the world, make people not age, etc.? Who were the Others? What was the deal with Electromagnetism? The cave of light? The temple? The giant statue? The questions are endless.
Apparently the answer from the writers was... who cares? It was all purgatory or whatever so anything goes & we don't have to explain ANYTHING. Just get the viewers all weepy with a happy ending, and they'll shut off their brains and ignore the fact that almost nothing ON THE ISLAND was ever explained.
Six Year Show Synopsis: Plane crashes. Everyone (maybe) dies and goes to purgatory, or otherwise some strange unexplained place. Weird stuff happens. Everyone hugs, kisses, flashes back, and then lives happily ever after in heaven, or the highest plane of existence, or whatever.
My opinion.... WORST... SEASON... FINALE.... EVER....
Alert: spoiler and the Gospel being preached (by a woman, no less).
By the fact that we have accepted that there’s no “now” in the church, we have a lot of lee-way for interpretation.
With my very Bible based Christian background with a heavy dollop of science fiction, I find that I can handle a breech in the space-time continuum, with an alternate or parallel history as a result and going on while the other events are in their loop(s).
I can’t accept the purgatory concept and am uncomfortable with everyone just being good enough to go to heaven/move on/ or whatever. I’m a believer that the dead in Christ are asleep in Christ, and will rise to meet him in the air someday. (Although I do believe that Romans 1 and 2 might apply, especially, “The righteous shall live by faith.”)
No, I would say that the alternate history went on, created after Jack’s heroics to restore the “heart of the island”. The church gathering is not in time, as you said, but eventually.
We don’t really know what happened to the pilot Frank Lapidus or to Richard. The ones we don’t see must have experienced another eventual gathering, I guess. Ben deprives himself of this one, at least as far as we experience.
I’m holding on to a parallel universe/alternate history, with each of our characters - those who haven’t already - finding faith and the one Way to their salvation, which comes from Jesus Christ. Eventually, these all find heaven - they go into the light.
Note that we know all along that Richard is a believer and that Lapidus says “Amen” when he achieves take off.
Rom 1:17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.”
Rev 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
You have to understand, that is PURE television marketing. It’s the same thing as the news teasing a story for 45 minutes, to get you to stay tuned (and watch the commercials) (that’s the only thing they care about).
They paid BIG money for the Kimmel show, the advertisers did, and they wanted as many people as possible tuning in. They showed them at the end, so they had as many eyeballs as possible watching the ads.
The fake endings were amusing, standard Kimmel fare, and to be honest, to be expected from Kimmel, that’s what he does.
They hype? That you can blame entirely on ABC and their advertisers.
That’s why I rarely watch network TV. It’s back to cable for me - Rescue Me starts soon!
I work in Marketing. ABC blatantly told people that there will be alternate LOST endings and having it be skits is bull. Its a great way to piss off loyal viewers who have stuck with this show for the past 6 years
Hold off on condemning it just yet. The more I think about it, the more okay I am with it.
I think they want you to decide for yourself what all the rest was - why the island was there, what the smoke monster was about (They kind of explained that the smoke monster was a mistake on Jacob’s part, by killing his brother, he created it.) (And when Linus was given another chance in the temple, it was the Man In Black giving it to him).
You kind of have to suspend your disbelief with this show, now - just like watching Kink Kong, you have to accept that a giant ape lived on an island with no mates or other apes, with dinosaurs and giant insects, and not knowing how they got there.
I also suspect they may have left themselves a lot of material to go back to, if they ever decide to make another show, or a movie, or even books. The island could be eternal, and they could have endless sequels and prequels with it. Will they ever go back? Who knows?
I work in marketing too - and I’m not disagreeing with you - but that’s how marketing in TV works. They’re the true sleazebags of the marketing world.
It actually is. Have you ever had the news on in the background, and they go to a break with “What everyday household item in your house will KILL you? Tune in later to find out!” - and it turns out to be some thing that could never happen in most people’s lifetimes?
It’s not exactly the same thing, but it’s the same family. It’s hype, and they do it all the time. Maybe not on your news, but here in the NYC metro area, the local news do it every freaking day. They do it to keep you tuned in.
They promised you alternate endings. Well, you got them. They didn’t say anything else, so legally, they were’nt lying. But the bit about only being seen on Kimmel and nowhere else (like on the DVDs, when they come out) should have been a HUGE clue.
Nice stretch. Hope you dont pull a hamstring with that stretch.
the bit about only being seen on Kimmel and nowhere else (like on the DVDs, when they come out) should have been a HUGE clue.
yeah, people totally shouldn't have expected it seeing how the freakin cast was on Kimmel. Instead we should just have expected alternate endings on the weather channel instead. Right? gimmie a break
“Kink Kong” indeed. Face it, the script is an incoherent mish-mosh.
I would expect, if they filmed any extra scenes, or alternate endings, they will be in the box set that will be released this summer. That’s how it works. There’s more money selling that kind of thing, than playing them on Kimmel. Heck, at the very least, they would have bought that last half hour, and showed them as part of the show, a continuation of the wrap up show earlier - they would have gotten enormous ratings and ad revenue for that alone. Or done a show next week, with more interviews with the cast and crew, so the real ending could sink in.
And it was about half the cast. No Kate, no Hurley, no Charlie - even the writers sent in film. If there were real alternate endings, you’d expect the writers to be there to explain them. I’d be mad about that too - they made it sound like everyone would be there.
You can be mad all you want to, but that’s how the TV/film industry operates. They did’nt lie, they had alternate endings. They did’nt say “official”, or “real”, and you and a lot of other people fell for it. Mission accomplished. They get fat bonuses for the ad revenue and ratings Kimmel got tonight (now that I think about it, Kimmel might have failing ratings...). That’s all that matters.
I did’nt invent it, or work in it. Instead of venting at me, vent at ABC, and let them know that because of this stunt, you won’t ever watch their channel, and specifically Jimmy Kimmel, ever again. It would be a lot more productive, and if enough people do that, the slimeballs at ABC might think twice about doing that again.
I agree. I really liked the characters and the finale wrapped up all of the characters’ stories nicely.
But, they completely ignored one of the most important characters, the island. So, I’m only partially satisfied.
All of the time they wasted showing the ALT timeline this season should have been used to answer questions about the island. Some of the ALT timeline was necessary for the ending we got, but what about the island? (Which was so important in seasons 1-3.)
After investing so much time in the show, I was really hoping for an ending that would wrap it up and explain the meaning of the entire thing.I agree with your first paragraph but I'm not sure if the word "Hollywood" explains the monumental failure of the Lost Finale.I should have known better. Hollywood types can't resist the opportunity to give us a "meaningful" ending that few people can make sense of.
Hollywood gave us The Terminator series, which was a great depiction of time travel.
I thought Lost was going to be another such great depiction and though it flirted with science for much of its run it finally fell back on the Spiritual. Nothing wrong with that, if that's the kind of fiction you like.
Lost -- unfortunately in my mind -- turned out to be no kind of Science Fiction at all. It was a weird kind of ghost story or "Spirit Dream".
Which would have been fine if they hadn't teased us with SF for 6 long years.
I don't mind watching the show. I had many good conversations out of it with my friends and I believe that we came up with way better theories for what was going on than did the writers of Lost.
I believe what really happened is that they chickened out.
They were afraid, in the end, that the American Public can't handle good SF. They are sadly and stupidly wrong. But, they are also rich. And, like I said, I don't begrudge the time I put into the show.
Off topic but I also think that Avatar chickened out when it came to how much science they put in their story.
Actually, Jimmy said that and Matthew agreed. I would expect him to (that would make him pivotal, wouldn’t it?) and why spoil a very short segment, knowing it was all he was going to get on a short program with lots of guests. So he let it go.
I think the correct answer was upthread and recognizes that the point of life after death is the transcendance of the limitations of time and space under which we labor in life. I think they all died in the crash (I always thought so) and that this was purgatory because they were all extremely flawed at death and were going to need spiritual time to transcend. Many didn’t, it should be noted. Only about 20-25 people were in the church at the end and not all the major stars during the story. Only those who really grew to the stature that was necessary. Some are still on the Island, after all, and some are rattling around elsewhere.
If I had an element I couldn’t fit in, it was how the plane got off and what that means.
IT’s fun to think about.....my daughter thinks that the sideways universe is what happened because they didn’t realize they had died till they all started making contact with ea other and “remembered”
I feel ripped off. It’s the modern day version of Bobby coming out of the shower. Woops, bad dream. Or, woops, we were all dead anyway. Hated it.
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