[RJS1950]

Apple invented the concept of closed systems. They are the king of proprietary hardware and software.

[Mr. Blonde]

Yeah that is a huge problem with UNIX, how closed it is.

[BunnySlippers]

That’s why it works better.

[Noumenon]

Apple invented the concept of closed systems.

Yep. Take a look in the mirror, Steve-o. Blatant hypocracy.

[Hodar]

Jobs dismisses the fact that 75% of video on the web uses Flash as popular services including YouTube, Vimeo, Netflix, Facebook, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, ESPN, NPR, Time, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Sports Illustrated, People, and National Geographic already work without it.

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[Star Traveler]

You were saying ...

Apple invented the concept of closed systems. They are the king of proprietary hardware and software.

A quote for you... since you didn't read what Jobs said ... LOL ...

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First, there’s “Open”.

Adobe’s Flash products are 100% proprietary. They are only available from Adobe, and Adobe has sole authority as to their future enhancement, pricing, etc. While Adobe’s Flash products are widely available, this does not mean they are open, since they are controlled entirely by Adobe and available only from Adobe. By almost any definition, Flash is a closed system.

Apple has many proprietary products too. Though the operating system for the iPhone, iPod and iPad is proprietary, we strongly believe that all standards pertaining to the web should be open. Rather than use Flash, Apple has adopted HTML5, CSS and JavaScript – all open standards. Apple’s mobile devices all ship with high performance, low power implementations of these open standards. HTML5, the new web standard that has been adopted by Apple, Google and many others, lets web developers create advanced graphics, typography, animations and transitions without relying on third party browser plug-ins (like Flash). HTML5 is completely open and controlled by a standards committee, of which Apple is a member.

Apple even creates open standards for the web. For example, Apple began with a small open source project and created WebKit, a complete open-source HTML5 rendering engine that is the heart of the Safari web browser used in all our products. WebKit has been widely adopted. Google uses it for Android’s browser, Palm uses it, Nokia uses it, and RIM (Blackberry) has announced they will use it too. Almost every smartphone web browser other than Microsoft’s uses WebKit. By making its WebKit technology open, Apple has set the standard for mobile web browsers.

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You can read his full statement in Post #36 ... :-)

[rdb3]

Apple invented the concept of closed systems. They are the king of proprietary hardware and software.

So true! And I love my MacBook Pro and iPod.

Yet I am an open source dude. Go figure.

[antiRepublicrat]

Apple invented the concept of closed systems. They are the king of proprietary hardware and software.

Closed systems where they way things worked in the computer industry until Compaq opened up the PC market in the 80s.

Now software was open in the early days of computing, but started closing down at least by the 70s. Now Apple uses far more open source software than Microsoft. Jobs alludes to this in his mention of WebKit (a fork of the open source KHTML).

[IncPen]

Apple invented the concept of closed systems. They are the king of proprietary hardware and software.

The created standards and stuck to them and offer a superior user experience.

Hate 'em all you want; their sales tell the story...