Posted on 04/28/2010 4:05:19 PM PDT by mukraker
I have a question I’d like to ask of my fellow Freepers.
Would anything short of deportation of illegal immigrants still be considered amnesty?
Realistically and logistically, how are we going to deport 12+ million illegal aliens? What can actually be done?
A partial solution, one that I think would work, would be to allow anyone who is here illegally to come forward, on their own accord, by a date certain, and admit they are here illegally. They would appear in a court of law, and plead guilty to entering the country illegally, or overstaying their visas, or whatever the circumstances as to why they are here illegally requires.
The court would find them guilty of a felony, but the lowest class of felony.
The mandatory punishment would include 1) lifetime probation, felonious violation of which would be immediately punishable by deportation; 2) payment of a substantial fine (say $5,000); and, 3) a lifetime prohibition from attaining U.S. citizenship.
The individual would then be allowed to remain in the country legally, but could never become a citizen, could never vote, and would face immediate deportation if they commit another felony. They would become permanent resident aliens, legal aliens, upon payment of the $5,000 fine and verification of compliance with the other terms of the punishment.
I don’t claim that this would be a perfect solution, but I think it just might be part of the solution. It provides an incentive for illegals to come forward and be identified, but also imposes punishment for the crime they have committed by being here illegally. And it prohibits those people from ever becoming legal U.S. citizens.
I welcome your thoughts.
Yes.
Homeboy, how dare you ask people to reflect on this (or any other, but especially this) issue. You’d better stock up on flame suits.
Yes!
See U.S. Code TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part VIII > § 1324
Follow Arizona as an example, they are self deporting to another state and back to their country.
RINOS will cave as usual.
No welfare, no free housing, no free healthcare, no free education, no illegal jobs. Go back to Mexico and apply for legal residency here.
Then we can at least have something to discuss.
No way. The next admin would find this to be against human rights, and they’d get the rest.
Deport, deport, deport.
Deport some, the rest will leave, if they think they’ll lose their property entirely. Better to sell assets and leave, than to be deported and lose their assets.
Eisenhower did it——no sweat.
Amen.
Deportation doesn’t even need to be an option. Cut off the money and they leave voluntarily. We see it here all the time when the jobs dry up, and school enrollement drops by 20% or so....
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The fines would never be paid, welfare rolls, food stamps, hospitals, schools and the criminal justice system would still be swamped, all at cost to taxpayers.
Thousands of Americans would still be assaulted, killed by illegal criminals and drivers with no insurance.
The dems would still get them to vote.
They would still continue to depress wages and take American jobs.
It's that simple. Over a period of a few years, I think you'd find our illegal problem will all but have completely abated.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/usc_sec_08_00001324---a000-.html
This deals with the employment side, but what about the mere being here part of the equasion? What do you do with the kid in school, the honors kid, wjo was brought here illegally when his parents crossed the border with him as a baby? What do you do with the businessman who employs a hundred local residents, but who, himself, is here illegally?
I'm looking for more than knee-jerk reactions.
How exactly do (some of) you propose to deport the millions who are here illegally?
Double-superlative typo - sorry.
Yes you can deport them all. You just have to have the SPINE to do it. Once it gets started, more will self-deport.
Take away the freebies, jobs, and ill-gotten gains and the rust back to the border will commence. But first you got to get a SPINE!
I agree. We also need to enforce the laws already on the nbooks.
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