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1 posted on 04/28/2010 4:05:19 PM PDT by mukraker
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Would anything short of deportation of illegal immigrants still be considered amnesty?

Yes.

2 posted on 04/28/2010 4:07:22 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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Homeboy, how dare you ask people to reflect on this (or any other, but especially this) issue. You’d better stock up on flame suits.


3 posted on 04/28/2010 4:07:25 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (?)
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Yes!


4 posted on 04/28/2010 4:08:24 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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See U.S. Code TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part VIII > § 1324


5 posted on 04/28/2010 4:08:56 PM PDT by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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Follow Arizona as an example, they are self deporting to another state and back to their country.


6 posted on 04/28/2010 4:09:23 PM PDT by pennboricua
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RINOS will cave as usual.


7 posted on 04/28/2010 4:09:35 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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Realistically and logistically, how are we going to deport 12+ million illegal aliens? What can actually be done?

When we did it before, more than half left on their own. We should do everything possible to encourage them to leave. Stop hiring them stopping giving them welfare are a couple of good encouragements.
8 posted on 04/28/2010 4:10:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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No welfare, no free housing, no free healthcare, no free education, no illegal jobs. Go back to Mexico and apply for legal residency here.

Then we can at least have something to discuss.


9 posted on 04/28/2010 4:10:53 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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No way. The next admin would find this to be against human rights, and they’d get the rest.

Deport, deport, deport.

Deport some, the rest will leave, if they think they’ll lose their property entirely. Better to sell assets and leave, than to be deported and lose their assets.


10 posted on 04/28/2010 4:11:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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Eisenhower did it——no sweat.


11 posted on 04/28/2010 4:12:09 PM PDT by Venturer
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Deportation doesn’t even need to be an option. Cut off the money and they leave voluntarily. We see it here all the time when the jobs dry up, and school enrollement drops by 20% or so....

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13 posted on 04/28/2010 4:14:51 PM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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It would show the world that we are not serious about defending our borders and the flood would continue.

The fines would never be paid, welfare rolls, food stamps, hospitals, schools and the criminal justice system would still be swamped, all at cost to taxpayers.

Thousands of Americans would still be assaulted, killed by illegal criminals and drivers with no insurance.

The dems would still get them to vote.

They would still continue to depress wages and take American jobs.

14 posted on 04/28/2010 4:15:02 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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No, as a practical matter, it's impossible to deport 12 million people. BUT, you can make it MUCH more harder for businesses to hire illegals. You can change the citizenship laws and make citizenship available only jus sanguinis, rather than jus soli - as it is in many if not most of the European countries. And finally, you can deny ALL government social services to anyone who is not in the country with a valid visa or green card.

It's that simple. Over a period of a few years, I think you'd find our illegal problem will all but have completely abated.

15 posted on 04/28/2010 4:15:41 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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Yes you can deport them all. You just have to have the SPINE to do it. Once it gets started, more will self-deport.

Take away the freebies, jobs, and ill-gotten gains and the rust back to the border will commence. But first you got to get a SPINE!


19 posted on 04/28/2010 4:17:19 PM PDT by packrat35 (Planned Parenthood - Keeping healthcare costs down, one fetus at a time)
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Google “attrition through enforcement’. We don’t have to deport 12 million/32 million/47 million/11 million ILLEGAL aliens. When they see the laws being enforced, they will move somewhere else—kind of like when your neighbor has his house sprayed for bugs, what happens? Then, what do YOU have to do?

All 50 states and the territories need to pass the same law as Arizona. Uniformity across the board will close the borders and keep America much safer than she is now, which isn’t very safe!


21 posted on 04/28/2010 4:17:53 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue" ><>)
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By all means convict them of a felony, then sentence them to 10 years forced labor and house them in factories.

Soon we’ll be exporting cheap goods to China and certainly nobody will want to be here illegally.


23 posted on 04/28/2010 4:19:20 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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A path to anything needs to start with an application for legal immigration filed at a US Embassy outside of the United States. I don’t care how long you have been here, if you want legal status, go home and apply.

We did not provide transportation for the illegals to come here. They can find their own way home. If we have to deport them, we should deliver them to the souternmost part of Mexico.

If we find we need a guest worker program, applications can be filed at those same US Embassys overseas.

If anyone needs a lesson on how to make this work, they should Google “Operation Wetback”.


25 posted on 04/28/2010 4:21:06 PM PDT by csmusaret (If it sounds like Marx and acts like Stalin, it must be Obama!)
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We already played this game.

We let them stay, everyone now here illegally came in after we let everyone stay the last time.

Deport them you silly.

Games are over


26 posted on 04/28/2010 4:21:16 PM PDT by dila813
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No its not all or nothing to answer your question.

But your premise is flawed. We don’t have to round up 12M people and deport them at once. We first stop the leak before we worry about rounding up anybody. Then and only then do we slowly deal with the existing illegals through a discentive structure focused at employers. You want to make it hard for the illegals and force them to deport themselves.

My first priority now is not deporting the existing illegals but to stop the flood. First things first. Where is this friggin’ wall and why isn’t someone - anyone - in Congress demanding it be built? We have a national security problem here.


27 posted on 04/28/2010 4:21:36 PM PDT by plain talk
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“Realistically and logistically, how are we going to deport 12+ million illegal aliens”

You make a start - one illegal alien at a time...no matter what country they came from!


30 posted on 04/28/2010 4:23:11 PM PDT by Castigar
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