[Daffynition]

[happinesswithoutpeace]

whoa

[EternalVigilance]

The revelations have sent shock waves through the scholarly community in the United States.

Yes, and we know what paragons of virtue they are.

/s

[InABunkerUnderSF]

Always remember that Mr. Ambrose was one of the historians who testified before congress that, in their view, President Clinton’s acts should not be considered impeachable in a historical context.

[abb]

History is a myth that men agree to believe.
— Napoleon Bonaparte

[VOA]

bump

[BamaAndy]

I don’t believe it.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

When I used to watch C-Span, I remember Ambrose say that he once had a drinking problem.

[SamAdams76]

Always beware of authors who put out a ton of books in a short period of time. Chances are that the books were rushed to market and as a result, were sloppily written. Not just with non-fiction authors but with fiction writers as well.

John Grisham, Stephen King and Tom Clancy fall into this category as well as WEB Griffin, Stephen Ambrose and James Michener.

All are talented writers but the pressure to get a bunch of books to market definitely diluted the quality of what they were putting out.

[Travis McGee]

Is this Ambrose’s first accusation of fabrication?

[SkyPilot]

I love Ambrose's books, and have read at least a dozen works by him (some twice).

There is no doubt that so much of his work is documented and truthful. If it wasn't, the thousands of veterans he interviewed directly would have screamed bloody murder. In fact, some of them did when he wrote one book, because they didn't have a chance to correct his inaccuracies. He didn't make that same mistake with subsequent books about WW II, and said so in his Prologue.

Now, with regard to the Eisenhower interviews, who knows.

I will say this - there was something a bit off and creepy about Ambrose, the man.

In interviews, he comes off sometimes as pissed off. He was a vehement Leftist, despite his love of American GIs and the war against Nazi Germany and Totalitarianism.

He was a big supporter of people like Clinton. He was friends with McGovern, although McGovern was a genuine WW II hero (B-24 pilot, DFC, 35 mission, etc).

[JoeProBono]

[warchild9]

I’ve taken c**p from people on this forum for years when pointing out that Ambrose is a fraud and that most of his books are ghostwritten (he never touches pen to paper, but sells his name). Those of us who have studied actual history (meaning primary documents and talked to veterans—not just watched television) have always known this.

However, he writes about heeeeroeees, and so he cannot be wrong. People, wake up!

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

Ooooh, everyone is going to love this one:
http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/plagiarism/famous-examples-of-plagiarism.html

[SunkenCiv]

http://mediamythbusters.com/index.php?title=Plagiarism