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To: greeneyes

Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

Again, Gov. Jindal is Not a NBC-his parents were NOT US citizens at the time of his birth.

In regard to your hypothetical question concerning John Quincy Adams being born in a US Embassy in France-The US State Department guidelines on immigration 7 FAM 1116.1-4 states, “Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S.diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.” This also applies to those that still insist that John McCain is a NBC.

You then ask, “Which Supreme Court rulings have stated that the term NBC for presidential eligibility was reserved EXCLUSIVELY for a person born of 2 citizen parents on US soil?” We don’t need a Supreme Court ruling-The US Constitution has already states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President”.

Again, there are a number of Supreme Court rulings that state that “Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” Everytime you find the phrase “Natural born citizen” mentioned in a Supreme Court ruling, you will find the above definition or a resonable paraphrase of it. You will never find that it was defined as anything but one born in our nation to citizen parents (plural-meaning BOTH parents must be US citizens).

John McCain is NOT a NBC-he was born in the city of Colon, Panama, outside of the Canal Zone, and he became a US citizen through the use of an immigration law (8 U.S.C. 1403) that was passed when he was 11 months old-a NBC would not have to appeal to an immigration law-immigration laws are for people born outside of our nation.

Barry Goldwater was born within the territory of the United States.

Yes I am aware that the 1790 statute passed by Congress stated that children born out of the country to citizen parents are considered NBC’s, and I am also aware that that law was repealed and replaced within 5 years by The Naturalization Act of 1795, which stated that the children born out of the country to citizen parents are considered citizens. The only place in the world that the child of US citizens be born, and legally be considered as a NBC is within the territory of the United States.


410 posted on 04/24/2010 7:52:14 PM PDT by chatter4
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To: chatter4

Then you and I are in agreement as to the definition of a natural born citizen.

However you did state that MANY Supreme Court cases use the term NBC to mean “those born in the country, of parents who are citizens,” and stated that is the legal definition.

I ask you again, which cases, and what is your source for the legal definition? I would very much like to read these for myself.

If you can not name them, I am going to wonder whether you were simply exaggerating to make your assertions sound more authoritative.


413 posted on 04/24/2010 9:11:48 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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