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To: Rutabega

If father is unknown, the only way to establish which type of citizen a person is would be through the Mother. However, you have constructed a strawman because both you and Barry the Fraud know whom is the father and neither your son nor Barry Soetoro, aka Barry Obama, aka Barack Hussein Obama is a natural biorn citizen according to the way the founders used that term. [BTW, my Mother conceived me due to rape and she chose my birth and life rather than kill me early in my lifetime already begun.]


253 posted on 04/22/2010 7:52:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; Genoa
I disagree, and until a case shows exactly what a natural born citizen is, I feel that I am within my rights. Remember, according to Germany, my son has no more rights as a German citizen than anyone else who is not born a German citizen, and I do not believe that a US court would agree that there is any logical inference that Germany would be my son's point of loyalty over the US.
In a case where dual citizenship has been applied for and received, perhaps there is more of an argument. If Barry did get dual citizenship (which he claims) then he might get a different response than my son.
The reason I bring this up is that Barry is one of thousands of kids who are in this situation, and I truly do not think the courts will decide to make them all some sub-class of citizen. Imagine kids who are born to military men who marry a non-US national and have a child before the other parent becomes a US citizen. If they are born in the US, I do not think that anyone (until recently while trying to figure out a way to get rid of Obama) would consider them anything other than a natural born US citizen. When I took civics, it was “born in the US, you can be president, born overseas, not on a base, you can't.” My mother says that is what she learned, as well. Her mother was English and not a citizen when she was born, though her father was AF and she was born in DC at Walter Reed hospital. She went to schools on US bases all through Europe and America and says that everyone in her case knew that they were allowed to run for president if they were 35 and had lived in the US for 14 years, so I just don't buy the one US citizen parent + one non-US citizen parent, born on US soil = no NBC. I think we can agree to disagree. After all, the founders most definitely didn't agree on a heck of a lot. :) MGHinTN, I am very happy for you that your mom went through the birth with you. That was brave and inspiring.
271 posted on 04/22/2010 9:17:46 AM PDT by Rutabega (European 'intellectualism' has NOTHING on America's kick-a$$ism!)
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To: MHGinTN

God bless your mother! I hope she has a long and happy life!


298 posted on 04/22/2010 11:25:37 AM PDT by missanne (That's all I can stands and I can't stands no more?? This is one of those days!)
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