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Intel Sandy Bridge: Details of the next gen ( new sockets.......??)
bit-tech.net ^ | 21st April 2010 | Richard Swinburne

Posted on 04/21/2010 9:56:21 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

We've got details in front of us of Intel's next generation platforms due in 2011, along with its 'Sandy Bridge' CPUs. A third party gave us this information - Intel won't comment on unreleased products.

Sandy Bridge CPUs will be based on the current 32nm, second generation High-k metal gate manufacturing process, but will include new architectural features such as AVX - Advanced Vector Extensions - and AES - Advanced Encryption Standard - acceleration and will arrive in Q1 next year, with possibly very limited products popping up late Q4, although depending on who we talk to the story changes.

They will be split into two markets: mainstream and enthusiast. The mainstream models will replace the current LGA1156 'H1' Clarkdale and Lynnfield CPUs (Core i3 and Core i5) and will use LGA1155 'H2' packaging.


Yes, that's right, LGA1155 - one fewer pins than current LGA1156 CPUs. These sockets are NOT compatible, so you cannot use an existing LGA1156 CPU in a new motherboard or visa versa. Not only is the position of pin-1 different, the socket notch has moved from 9mm to 11.5mm from the centre and the entire voltage plane layout has changed.

Mainstream Sandy Bridge CPUs will be both native dual- and quad-core products, currently targeting TDPs of 65W and 95W respectively, both with Hyper-Threading and Turbo Boost technology. At the moment it's not clear what frequency these CPUs will be though (likely because none are available yet from Intel).

All LGA1155 CPUs will have integrated graphics built into the core instead of a separate chip. This is an upgrade from the current IGP, PCI Express controller and memory controller in Clarkdale CPUs that is manufactured on the older 45nm process in a separate die (but still slapped together the same package). This should improve performance, as all the controllers will be in one die, like existing LGA1366 CPUs.

Intel Sandy Bridge: Details of the next gen

The PCI Express controller available in the CPU will provide 16 lanes, but it will be multi-GPU x8-x8 compatible like current LGA1156 CPUs - however there are currently no specific details about SLI or CrossFire.


The LGA1155 CPUs will have an integrated dual-channel DDR3 memory controller, using the same 1,333MHz memory currently available: no change there then.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: hitech; intelcpus
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1 posted on 04/21/2010 9:56:21 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

Socket change again....


2 posted on 04/21/2010 9:56:59 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

LGA-144


3 posted on 04/21/2010 10:14:12 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I believe that the next great advancement in PC chip design will be the use of optical connectors instead of electrical pins.


4 posted on 04/21/2010 10:16:19 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What does this mean in layman’s terms? . . . espcially if one happens to own Intel stock?


5 posted on 04/21/2010 10:24:20 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips
In regard to stock prices ...I have no idea...

for those building their own computer.,...it means to use the new processors (not yet available) they will need to buy a new motherboard as well as the processor...

Guess they get to use their current DDR3 memory and power supply....

6 posted on 04/21/2010 10:39:06 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting. Thanks for the ping.
“LGA2011 socket (with) four channel DDR3 memory controller...
PCI Express 3 - of which we’ll get 32 lanes bolted into the CPU itself.”
Toss in a four, six or maybe even eight core CPU (with hyper-threading) and you have some serious speed and power there.


7 posted on 04/21/2010 10:44:36 AM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

AM2+/AM3 is a far better platform!


8 posted on 04/21/2010 11:26:20 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: taxcontrol

“I believe that the next great advancement in PC chip design will be the use of optical connectors instead of electrical pins.”

The first few generations will still need eletrical power to drive the optical diodes inside of it.

But it will be cool, as light travels faster than electrons and you can have multiple frequencies of light over the same optical pin....


9 posted on 04/21/2010 11:28:54 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG; MrChips
Upgrades look less expensive for sure....

Not sure where Intel is going with performance....

10 posted on 04/21/2010 11:42:11 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: astyanax

Do you see much improvement over their current High End processors with this.?


11 posted on 04/21/2010 11:43:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All
Looking around....:

By Sebastian Pop, Technology Editor

April 8th, 2010, 10:11 GMT

Intel's Sandy Bridge CPU Needs New Chipset

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6 Series chipset has no USB 3.0 support

When planning to make and release a new central processing unit, chip makers have to decide whether the new CPU will be compatible with existing sockets or if its performance advantage is high enough to justify the making of a special chipset. This is, no doubt, the same dilemma that has plagued Intel in the development of the Sandy Bridge micro-architecture and the so-called 6 Series chipset. Until recently, end-users might have been hoping for a future where the new 32nm Sandy bridge chips would work on existing motherboards. Unfortunately, recent rumors seem to, once and for all, crush these hopes.

According to the folks over at Fudzilla, the 32nm Sandy Bridge chips will, indeed, be designed for socket 1155 motherboards. This suggests that the 6 Series chipset will be designed with this socket if it hopes to provide the new CPU with a platform.

For consumers interested in upgrading their configurations, this means that they will need a new motherboard to start. The report also points at a rather unfortunate drawback of the new core logic. Intel supposedly told its partners that there would be no native support for USB 3.0, only for up to 14 USB 2.0 ports. Of course, there is always the consolation that compatibility with the next-generation standard will still be implementable, via an external chip.

12 posted on 04/21/2010 11:49:37 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: MrChips
From Intel:

Intel Shares Vision for the Future

INTEL DEVELOPER FORUM, Beijing, April 13, 2010 – At its developer conference today, Intel Corporation demonstrated how the company is providing a foundation on which to build common hardware, software and ecosystem solutions to make computing experiences and devices work together seamlessly and easier to use. The Intel Developer Forum kicked off with a keynote by David (Dadi) Perlmutter, executive vice president and co-general manager, Intel Architecture Group (IAG), who shared Intel's vision to make it possible for technology users to realize the potential for a common connected computing experience.

"With an additional 1 billion connected computing users by 2015 and with more types of devices there is value in providing a common experience between the devices," said Perlmutter. "Intel architecture delivers the right combination of performance and power that provides the foundation across all computing devices creating a virtual continuum of computing to enable this common user experience."

13 posted on 04/21/2010 11:53:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Do you see much improvement over their current High End processors with this.?"
It doesn’t sound like there is much of a performance increase other than an upgraded GPU.
Considering that is the typical bottleneck in most systems, I can see this being a good call.
And with the socket launching with "quad-and six-core CPUs (with Hyper-Threading so eight and 12 execution units)" and possibly 8 cores, the GPU will most likely continue to be the bottleneck for the foreseeable future. ;)
However, it also means the shelf-life of the P55 chipset has just been diminished considerably.

14 posted on 04/21/2010 1:04:45 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: astyanax; GraceG; MrChips

My speculation is that this is all about getting better integrate performance from the graphics so HP will stop putting Nvidia graphics chips in the HP Laptops....


15 posted on 04/21/2010 1:09:56 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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better ...integrateD... performance
16 posted on 04/21/2010 1:11:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That’s an interesting thought and cpu’s have definitely been trending that way.
Intel’s onboard video has always been less than impressive.


17 posted on 04/21/2010 2:21:40 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

well, hot stuff!


18 posted on 04/22/2010 5:55:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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