Open Letter to Bill O’Reilly (re: LTC Lakin, Obama, NBCgate, Certifigate)

safeguardourconstitution.com ^ | 4/19/2010 | The American Patriot Foundation

[rxsid]

"April 19, 2010: Open Letter to Bill O’Reilly

Mr. O’Reilly:

Please refrain from using your “No Spin Zone” jingle. Please stop saying you support the troops. Your recent "opinion" story about LTC Lakin with Megyn Kelley proves both of these claims to be wrong.

Until convicted, LTC Lakin remains a soldier willing to and desiring to take care of troops and join them in any deployment. He chose to do so ONLY if his chain of command could provide all troops with the evidence that they are serving under Constitutionally eligible leadership.

Your statement that his disobeying orders was a way for him to get out of deployment is false. He met all pre-deployment requirements, still has his bags packed and would be on the next flight to Afghanistan for his second tour if there is valid or forthcoming evidence that Mr. Obama has met "Natural Born Citizen" status per the requirements of Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution. You tossed this decorated soldier under the bus without any research of the facts-- this doesn't reconcile with your claim to support the troops.

Megyn’s comment that his refusal to obey orders is a “political statement” is also without merit, but contains much spin. How is upholding the law-- the Constitution-- per his sworn oath as an officer, deemed a “political” act? We expect and demand a retraction for this reckless and unsubstantiated smear.

Megyn also stated there are military channels to deal with the issue. If you and Megyn had bothered to look at the information available about his efforts at our website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com, the timeline provided demonstrates that for over a year, LTC Lakin brought this issue to his supervisors, leaders, and Congressional representatives.
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LTC Lakin attempted to use the military justice system to file two complaints. In those complaints, he pleaded with superiors to advise him if he was not using the right method or to provide advice on a way forward. The response was that his complaint was “deficient” and the Commander in Chief and the commanding General of the Army are not in his chain of command. After eighteen years serving in uniform, with many deployments overseas, he deserved honesty, not evasions. All American servicemembers deserve better than this.

Mr. O’Reilly, do you understand how meager the evidence is regarding the online copy of a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) and newspaper entries which were generated by the underlying, hidden document which Mr. Obama refuses to release?

Just a little bit of time for any serious investigative journalist would have revealed obvious problems with the COLB versus an original birth certificate; most notably lacking is a hospital name and attending doctor's signature.

Can you provide a reasonable explanation for the team of lawyers defending Mr. Obama's vital records in courtrooms across the country-- and the shroud of secrecy over all documents which might shed light on his actual birthplace?

Can you explain why no hospital in Hawaii has yet laid claim to being the birthplace of this President?-- yet many Kenyans publicly, and including on the floor of the Kenyan Parliament, claim he was born there? It is clear that the State of Hawaii has lax verification policies to obtain a birth record and that it altered a website in June 2009 to make the COLB appear co-equal to an original birth certificate-- when it never was before.
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"http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/news/openlettertobilloreilly.html

[rxsid]

How can a USURPER command our armed forces?
How can a USURPER sign any treaties with foreign governments?
How can a USURPER sign anything into law, let alone the health care monstrosity?

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

Factcheck.org goes on to say this about Obama Sr., Jr. and the British Nationality Act of 1948:

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

 

Even the modern day State Department rules discusses the problems associated with dual citizenship:

7 FAM 081: U.S. Policy on Dual Nationality:

(e)While recognizing the existence of dual nationality, the U.S. Government does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Dual nationality may hamper efforts by the U.S. Government to provide diplomatic and consular protection to individuals overseas. When a U.S. citizen is in the other country of their dual nationality, that country has a predominant claim on the person.

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the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that dual nationality is a "status long recognized in the law" and that "a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both." See Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952).

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86563.pdf

So, back to the question: "HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?"
It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born), a fact backed up by Factcheck.org. Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!

http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed the parents (or grandparents or other relative) of baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate. A mailed-in form (without mention of a hospital, doctor, or midwife) signed by one of his grandparents (who forged the parent signature(s)) would have been enough to set up a birth record and a birth certificate at the Dept of Health. The Dept of Health would then have automatically sent the names of the parents, their address as given on the mailed-in form , the gender of the child, and the date of birth to the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin. The address given for the parents in the newspaper announcements is actually, however, the August 1961 home address of Obama’s maternal grandparents Stanley and Madelyn Dunham [6085 Kalanianaole Highway], and not the 1961 home address of Barack Obama, Sr. [625 11th Ave].) This notification would then have automatically generated the newspaper announcements. (This was the practice of the Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin at the time).

Bottom line: Even IF (big IF) he was born in HI, he inherited his father's foreign citizenship as well, making him a US citizen by US law and the subject of the crown of her majesty the Queen of England by inheritance and England's law. He could not be considered a Natural Born Citizen as known by and as intended by the framers.

[rxsid]

Ping.

"Open Letter to Bill O’Reilly (re: LTC Lakin, Obama, NBCgate, Certifigate)"

[bigbob]

Not nearly “pithy” enough for him to ever read it, must less comprehend. And he *never* is wrong. Just ask him.

[ExTexasRedhead]

Mr. O’Reilly should take a trip to Hawaii and ask native Hawaiians if they believe Hussein Obama was born there. I have friends that just returned from Hawaii and they tell me that the locals “do not” believe Zero was born in Hawaii.

IMO, Mr. O’Reilly plays both sides for his own personal gain and to feed his need for a shred of relevance.

[Mr Rogers]

“Even IF (big IF) he was born in HI, he inherited his father’s foreign citizenship as well, making him a US citizen by US law and the subject of the crown of her majesty the Queen of England by inheritance and England’s law.”

If Putin declares all US citizens are automatically Russian citizens, does that make it impossible for anyone to be President? After all, by act of a foreign country, we would all have dual citizenship...

And we once went to war with England over the issue:

“The United States believed that British deserters had a right to become United States citizens. Britain did not recognise naturalised United States citizenship, so in addition to recovering deserters, it considered United States citizens born British liable for impressment. Exacerbating the situation was the widespread use of forged identity papers by sailors. This made it all the more difficult for the Royal Navy to distinguish Americans from non-Americans and led it to impress some Americans who had never been British. (Some gained freedom on appeal.)[20] American anger at impressment grew when British frigates stationed themselves just outside U.S. harbors in U.S. territorial waters and searched ships for contraband and impressed men in view of U.S. shores.[21] “Free trade and sailors’ rights” was a rallying cry for the United States throughout the conflict.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

[Las Vegas Ron]

If Putin declares all US citizens are automatically Russian citizens, does that make it impossible for anyone to be President?

Has to be the most retarded argument I've ever seen.

[Terry Mross]

I guess serving 18 years and being less than two years until retirement wasn’t enough to show Bill and Megan the LTC is sincered.

And they got it wrong about the Marine’s facebook page. They were saying without a doubt this Marine was wrong. It turns out that while their tape was being run it was being reported the Marine Corp lawyers told him he could have the facebook page and it’s up and running. Am I wrong?

[El Sordo]

Do you agree then that the actions or laws of another country, any other country, cannot affect the citizenship of someone born in the US?

Only US law can decide who is an NBC?

[rxsid]

"If Putin declares all US citizens are automatically Russian citizens, does that make it impossible for anyone to be President? After all, by act of a foreign country, we would all have dual citizenship..."

Really? Seriously?? What if...what if...what if?

Of course such an act would not be internationally recognized.

Besides...taking your what if....what if then the U.S. Congress declared all the world's population to be U.S. citizens? Then everybody would be eligible within a generation and nobody would be able to "un-declare" that declaration. Ridiculous, in the least.

Bottom line, the United States of America can NOT prevent a child born in this country, from inheriting his/her foreign father's citizenship.

Heck, even your buddies over at fts and his very own campaign web site acknowledge this fact.

Obama was born a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England....NO MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN!

[B4Ranch]

BUMP

[rxsid]

"If Putin declares all US citizens are automatically Russian citizens, does that make it impossible for anyone to be President?

Has to be the most retarded argument I've ever seen

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Completely agree. 100% nonsensical.

[rxsid]

"Do you agree then that the actions or laws of another country, any other country, cannot affect the citizenship of someone born in the US?

Only US law can decide who is an NBC?

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Just the same, US "law" can not affect the citizenship laws of another country. No US "law" can deny a foreigner from passing their foreign citizenship onto to their children, even if their child is born in the US.

Similarly, if a US citizen mother gives birth overseas...that child can STILL inherit US "citizenship" as that country of birth (soil) can NOT deny US citizenship laws.

b.t.w. US "law" can not define who is an NBC. They (Congress only) tried that with their ACT of Naturalization of 1790. It was repealed in relevant part. Congress can not define who an NBC is. Only a SCOTUS decision as to the intent of the framers, or a Constitutional amendment can do that.

[Mr Rogers]

You have reversed the implication. No country can FORCE someone born in America to be the citizen of another land, or compel allegiance.

The British Nationality Act can say anything it wants, but it has no bearing on US law or Obama’s eligibility. Foreign governments cannot declare someone a citizen of their land when they are born in the USA. They can allow someone to apply to citizenship and, in the case of Kenya, require the US citizenship to be abandoned, but they cannot make someone a dual citizen by fiat.

[edge919]

If Putin declares all US citizens are automatically Russian citizens, does that make it impossible for anyone to be President? After all, by act of a foreign country, we would all have dual citizenship...

Rogers, you need to drop this lame strawman argument. Obama's father had British/Kenyan citizenship. His child has a direct claim to citizenship. It's not on the basis of an arbitrary declaration over people with whom there is no jurisdiction.

[edge919]

rogers, you’re forgetting that the U.S. immigration and nationality act declares the children of its citizens born abroad to be citizens (while meeting certain requirements). If U.S. law can do this, then other countries’ laws have similar applicability over their citizens abroad.

[smalltownslick]

“Obama was born a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England....NO MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN!”

This is why it’s important to see the evidence. This statement is only true if his father is who he says he is.

[edge919]

Only US law can decide who is an NBC?

Natural born citizenship is extraconstitutional. It is defined outside of laws and statutes. It is a universal rule that the persons born in the country of its citizen parents will naturally be citizens of that same country. No law would be necessary for this to be recognized. When you get other factors, such as being born to foreign national citizens or being born abroad, then it requires statutory regulations to declare whether people can be considered citizens at birth.

[Las Vegas Ron]

You have reversed the implication. No country can FORCE someone born in America to be the citizen of another land, or compel allegiance.

I see you're not getting any better.

It is not forced on obama, his British Citizenship is his birth right passed along to him by his father.

Allegiance, what allegiance to America has bammie exhibited?

None.

[rxsid]

Spin dude, spin.

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

Factcheck.org goes on to say this about Obama Sr., Jr. and the British Nationality Act of 1948:

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

Your boy Barry inherited his fathers foreign citizenship not matter how much you wish it were not true.

The only way he "get out" of that is IF Sr. isn't/wasn't his legal father at birth.

[rxsid]

"“Obama was born a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England....NO MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN!”

This is why it’s important to see the evidence. This statement is only true if his father is who he says he is.

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Kinda, see the bottom of my comment here.

Even IF Sr. is listed (could have been fraudulently listed) on whatever kind of original he has there, was his fathers marriage to his mother a legal one? If not, then the 1948 BNA would not apply to Barry.