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Old German sword World war one (Vanity)big jpeg
NA ^ | april 18 2010 | Charlespg

Posted on 04/18/2010 11:45:04 AM PDT by Charlespg

old sword bought at antique shop over 20 years ago in Columbia SC

looking for info on original owner and wondered if any freepers could give me advice on were to start

sword is marked For faithful in German

sorry for the big jpeg dump


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: southcarolina; sword; vets; wwi

1 posted on 04/18/2010 11:45:06 AM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Charlespg

http://www.darkknightarmoury.com/c-145-windlass-swords.aspx


2 posted on 04/18/2010 11:49:43 AM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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Try Craigslist, but make the responders pony up proof.


3 posted on 04/18/2010 11:51:01 AM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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To: Charlespg
Appraisal of antiques
4 posted on 04/18/2010 11:52:28 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Charlespg

5 posted on 04/18/2010 11:53:10 AM PDT by Charlespg
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I’m not an expert by any means, but I would look to see if their are any markings that give information about the original owner.

1. Names

2. Any heraldic emblems such as a crest or coat-of-arms?

3. Anything indicating a German state that it is linked to?

While functionally one army, the Imperial German army was made up of the armies of each of the German states. (The Empire was a union of 4 Kingdoms, 6 Grand Duchies, 5 Duchies, 7 Principalities, 3 Free Cities, 1 Imperial Territory and the overseas colonies.)

Any of the above information should help you narrow it down.


6 posted on 04/18/2010 12:04:47 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Charlespg
Looks like a Prussian cavalry “Blucher” sabre, probably 19th century.

You can check around here for more info
http://www.swordforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18

7 posted on 04/18/2010 12:10:22 PM PDT by Polynikes (Haakkaa Paalle)
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Are you looking for Sgt. Carraway or the German from whom he took the sword?


8 posted on 04/18/2010 12:11:18 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Charlespg

Try contacting BerlinFreeper..


9 posted on 04/18/2010 12:12:07 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Charlespg
Now that I saw the blade It looks like a civilian pattern dress sword insomuch as there doesn't appear to be a “hatchet” point that was used in the military patterns. The military sabres were blade heavy to facilitate heavy strong strokes from horse back.
10 posted on 04/18/2010 12:24:47 PM PDT by Polynikes (Haakkaa Paalle)
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off the top of my head, without doing any research, it appears to be a field sword in good condition (as opposed to a dress sword). Scabbard looks to be in excellent shape. Sword blade appears dark in your photographs, if that due to age ...that could be problematic. If dark sword blade is due to manufacturing, it might indicate low quality steel. Hilt, guard and sharkskin grip appear to be in good condition.

On the scabbard, i see only one attaching ring; is the other missing? If so, try to get it replaced.

Are you asking for the value or info on how to contact owner?

From a soldiers point of view, the rightful ownwer is SGT Caraway and his heirs, not anyone in Germany. Captured equipment belongs to those who captured it, not those who surrendered it.


11 posted on 04/18/2010 12:39:17 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: Pontiac; All
Are you looking for Sgt. Carraway or the German from whom he took the sword?

I'd like to find out about Sgt. Carraway.

I bought this over about 20 years from a Antique store in Columbia SC

I cant tell if cn4365 is reference to his service number or what.

I would like to be able get some service record info on this gentleman if I can but with no unit info it is like searching for the proverbial needle in a hay stack

12 posted on 04/18/2010 1:28:44 PM PDT by Charlespg
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no markings but “officers supply” on the edge of the tang

and scroll work with the words “For fateful service”


13 posted on 04/18/2010 1:32:36 PM PDT by Charlespg
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These guys might be able to help.. Photobucket
14 posted on 04/18/2010 1:38:52 PM PDT by rahbert (Buffalo or giraffe?)
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To: Polynikes
Looks like a Prussian cavalry “Blucher” sabre, probably 19th century.

hehehehe (Bevis and Butthead) "blücher!"

Horses winny and raise up on back hooves....

Blücher!!!

15 posted on 04/19/2010 6:54:47 AM PDT by China Clipper (My favorite animals usually are found next to the rice on my plate.)
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Rick will give you $50 for it and sell it for $500. Chumley will accidentally cut himself with it...


16 posted on 04/19/2010 7:05:55 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: Charlespg
cant tell if cn4365 is reference to his service number or what.

I am guessing that is a Catalog Number for the store.

17 posted on 04/20/2010 7:08:18 PM PDT by Pontiac
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