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If Booth had missed and Lincoln oversaw Recontruction, His God like image would have been tarnished a little. As such, he goes down a martyr, Greeco-Roman temple and all.....
1 posted on 04/14/2010 5:54:59 AM PDT by central_va
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To: central_va

It’s also the day (night) the Titanic sank.


2 posted on 04/14/2010 6:02:16 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Freedom is worth fighting for.)
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To: central_va

Another one of your confederate heroes?


3 posted on 04/14/2010 6:03:54 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va

First time I’ve heard the word “massive” used to describe the few scarecrows that decided not to carry on as guerillas and surrendered that day. Weren’t there only 20,000 left ?


4 posted on 04/14/2010 6:06:16 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: central_va

If I recall correctly, Grant was also to have been a target as he was to have been in the box with Lincoln at the play, but he backed out at the last minute.


6 posted on 04/14/2010 6:09:25 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: central_va
Lincoln is shot

Lincoln is NOT short. Lincoln is TALL.

14 posted on 04/14/2010 6:16:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: central_va
Thanks for beginning what is going to be a triple popcorn thread.

Incidentally, as you fly over Washington and look down at the memorials, the lincoln memorial is three times the size of the Jefferson memorial.

I guess the size of the positive memory is inversely proportional to the contribution to the Constitution Republic they served.

20 posted on 04/14/2010 6:25:21 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: central_va

Yup. He’s still dead.


21 posted on 04/14/2010 6:30:22 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: central_va

Other than that, how was the play?


23 posted on 04/14/2010 6:31:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: central_va

Bump.

27 posted on 04/14/2010 6:40:43 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va

Live by the sword, die by the sword (or, in this case, pistol).


29 posted on 04/14/2010 6:45:57 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: central_va

If Booth had missed, Lincoln would not be the great hero to BO and Blacks. He had a low opinion of ‘Negroes’ and planned to deport them all to Africa or South America.


31 posted on 04/14/2010 6:47:05 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: central_va

If confederate president Jefferson Davis had been hung from the nearest tree the moment he was captured running away from Richmond in a woman’s dress, perhaps the lionization of Lincoln would have taken a different form.


42 posted on 04/14/2010 7:08:51 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: central_va; Idabilly
John Wilkes Booth, an actor and Confederate sympathizer, fatally shoots President Abraham Lincoln

Best thing that could have happened to ol' disHonest Abe, and the country, actually. Can you imagine what his legacy would have been if the Racist in Chief had lived through another term?

He would have exported blacks by the thousands, accelerated the centralization of government, continued to alienate the South with his extreme prejudicial governance, continued to ignore the Constitution and on and on.

If he hadn't been decently shot I can guarantee that there wouldn't have been that gawdy Lincoln Memorial. Hell, he probably would have ended up being tried and hanged for the war criminal that he was.

61 posted on 04/14/2010 8:52:10 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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62 posted on 04/14/2010 9:08:41 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: central_va

Wish they would release his DNA. Before I die, I’d love to know if my children are his cousins. 6 times removed.


74 posted on 04/14/2010 9:44:50 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: central_va

As Obama makes clear he is the new Lincoln, one has to wonder if he aspires to cause a civil war in the name of “social justice” (fascist oppression) or if believes he is due to be killed. The the USA Commies, the next step of the civil rights movement is the suspension of the constitution for the glory of Utopia.


113 posted on 04/14/2010 11:49:42 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: central_va
Lincoln is shot

And Texxon is there.

165 posted on 04/14/2010 3:52:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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213 posted on 04/15/2010 7:51:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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Secession Timeline
various sources

Platform of the Alabama Democracy -- the first Dixiecrats wanted to be able to expand slavery into the territories. It was precisely the issue of slavery that drove secession -- and talk about "sovereignty" pertained to restrictions on slavery's expansion into the territories. January 1860

Abraham Lincoln nominated by Republican Party May 18, 1860

Abraham Lincoln elected November 6, 1860

Robert Toombs, Speech to the Georgia Legislature -- "...In 1790 we had less than eight hundred thousand slaves. Under our mild and humane administration of the system they have increased above four millions. The country has expanded to meet this growing want, and Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Missouri, have received this increasing tide of African labor; before the end of this century, at precisely the same rate of increase, the Africans among us in a subordinate condition will amount to eleven millions of persons. What shall be done with them? We must expand or perish. We are constrained by an inexorable necessity to accept expansion or extermination. Those who tell you that the territorial question is an abstraction, that you can never colonize another territory without the African slavetrade, are both deaf and blind to the history of the last sixty years. All just reasoning, all past history, condemn the fallacy. The North understand it better - they have told us for twenty years that their object was to pen up slavery within its present limits - surround it with a border of free States, and like the scorpion surrounded with fire, they will make it sting itself to death." November 13, 1860

Alexander H. Stephens -- "...The first question that presents itself is, shall the people of Georgia secede from the Union in consequence of the election of Mr. Lincoln to the Presidency of the United States? My countrymen, I tell you frankly, candidly, and earnestly, that I do not think that they ought. In my judgment, the election of no man, constitutionally chosen to that high office, is sufficient cause to justify any State to separate from the Union. It ought to stand by and aid still in maintaining the Constitution of the country. To make a point of resistance to the Government, to withdraw from it because any man has been elected, would put us in the wrong. We are pledged to maintain the Constitution." November 14, 1860

South Carolina December 20, 1860

Mississippi January 9, 1861

Florida January 10, 1861

Alabama January 11, 1861

Georgia January 19, 1861

Louisiana January 26, 1861

Texas February 23, 1861

Abraham Lincoln sworn in as
President of the United States
March 4, 1861

Arizona territory March 16, 1861

CSA Vice President Alexander H. Stephens, Cornerstone speech -- "...last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the 'rock upon which the old Union would split.' He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact." March 21, 1861

Virginia adopted April 17,1861
ratified by voters May 23, 1861

Arkansas May 6, 1861

North Carolina May 20, 1861

Tennessee adopted May 6, 1861
ratified June 8, 1861

West Virginia declares for the Union June 19, 1861

Missouri October 31, 1861

"Convention of the People of Kentucky" November 20, 1861

http://members.aol.com/jfepperson/ordnces.html

[Alabama] "...Whereas, the election of Abraham Lincoln and Hannibal Hamlin to the offices of president and vice-president of the United States of America, by a sectional party, avowedly hostile to the domestic institutions and to the peace and security of the people of the State of Alabama, preceded by many and dangerous infractions of the constitution of the United States by many of the States and people of the Northern section, is a political wrong of so insulting and manacing a character as to justify the people of the State of Alabama in the adoption of prompt and decided measures for their future peace and security... And as it is the desire and purpose of the people of Alabama to meet the slaveholding States of the South, who may approve such purpose, in order to frame a provisional as well as permanent Government upon the principles of the Constitution of the United States, Be it resolved by the people of Alabama in Convention assembled, That the people of the States of Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri, be and are hereby invited to meet the people of the State of Alabama, by their Delegates, in Convention, on the 4th day of February, A.D., 1861, at the city of Montgomery, in the State of Alabama, for the purpose of consulting with each other as to the most effectual mode of securing concerted and harmonious action in whatever measures may be deemed most desirable for our common peace and security." [Jan 11, 1861]

[Texas] "...The recent developments in Federal affairs make it evident that the power of the Federal Government is sought to be made a weapon with which to strike down the interests and property of the people of Texas, and her sister slave-holding States, instead of permitting it to be, as was intended, our shield against outrage and aggression..." [Feb 1, 1861]

[Virginia] "...the Federal Government having perverted said powers not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern slave-holding States..." [Feb 23, 1861]

http://www.csawardept.com/documents/secession/AZ/index.html

[Arizona Territory] "...a sectional party of the North has disregarded the Constitution of the United States, violated the rights of the Southern States, and heaped wrongs and indignities upon their people... That we will not recognize the present Black Republican Administration, and that we will resist any officers appointed to this Territory by said Administration with whatever means in our power." [16 March 1861 -- Abraham Lincoln was sworn in as President of the United States on March 4, 1861. The pretext for Arizona's secession was interruption of U.S. postal service.]
214 posted on 04/15/2010 7:52:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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I have a Janesville, Wisconsin old newspaper that is the issue that contained the original breaking news story about Lincoln being assassinated. It is very interesting. It also conveys the story about the dramatic attempted slaying of the then Secretary of State, Henry Seward. Henry Seward was an extremely important man in our history. He was very antislavery. He continued on as Secretary of State under Johnson. He is famous for having us buy Alaska from Russia which he was very mocked for. Anyone who is interested in American history and is not knowledgeable about Seward should study up about him. Going to this site you will find a quick but very interesting overview of his life.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/William_H._Seward

On April 14, 1865, Lewis Powell, an associate of John Wilkes Booth, attempted to assassinate Seward, the same night and at the same moment Abraham Lincoln was shot. Powell gained access to Seward's home by telling a servant, William Bell, that he was delivering medicine for Seward, who was recovering from a recent near-fatal carriage accident on April 5, 1865. Powell started up the stairs when then confronted by one of Seward's sons, Frederick. He told the intruder that his father was asleep and Powell began to start down the stairs, but suddenly swung around and pointed a gun at Frederick's head. After the gun misfired, Powell panicked, then repeatedly struck Frederick over the head with the pistol, leaving Frederick in critical condition on the floor.

Powell then burst into William Seward's bedroom with a bowie knife and stabbed him several times in the face and neck. Powell also attacked and injured another son (Augustus), a soldier (SGT George Robinson) who had been assigned to stay with Seward, and a messenger (Emerick Hansell) who arrived just as Powell was escaping.

During the attack Seward was wearing a jaw splint (often incorrectly reported as a "neck brace") as a result of the carriage accident, and it is said that this saved his life. However, he carried the facial scars from the attack for the remainder of his life. The events of that night took their toll on his wife, Frances, who died June 1865. His daughter Fanny died of tuberculosis in October 1866.

Powell was captured the next day and was executed on July 7, 1865, along with David Herold, David Atzerodt, Mary Surratt three other conspirators in the Lincoln assassination.

Although it took Seward several months to recover from his wounds, he emerged as a major force in the administration of the new president, Andrew Johnson, frequently defending his more moderate reconciliation policies towards the South, to the point of enraging Radical Republicans who once regarded Seward as their friend but now attacked him.

219 posted on 04/16/2010 3:02:00 PM PDT by Bellflower (If you are left DO NOT take the mark of the beast and be damned forever.)
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