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Western Movies RUINED by Anachronistic Costumes
Self | March 11, 2010 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 03/11/2010 8:50:27 AM PST by PJ-Comix

I have a HUGE pet peeve. It is western movies in which the characters are wearing embarrassingly modern clothing. Most often it is the hats. If you look at photos or illustrations of the Old West at the time, the hats look very different from what we usually see in the movies. For example, yesterday I watched "September Dawn" about the Mountain Meadows Massacre but I couldn't get over the fact of the silly looking hats that folks back then did NOT wear. One IMDB commenter stated that those hats looked like something people wear on their way to a Garth Brooks concert.

One of the few movies that seemed to get authentic Western look was "Tombstone" which helped in appreciating that excellent movie. Unfortunately most of the Western movies are completely off-base in their costuming. Another thing that really bugs me about Western movies is when they have women dressed in jeans. Back then women ALWAYS wore dresses. NEVER pants. Any exposure of female legs or even outlines of their legs was considered as nudity back then. Oh, and when women rode horses...they only rode side-saddle.

Okay, sorry for the rant but way too many Western movies are RUINED by costume designers too lazy to research for authentic clothing.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: hollywood; westernmovies
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To: ottbmare

“Custer on TB is not an anachronism.”

I wasn’t talking about a movie-Custer really rode Thoroughbreds in the field, at least when he was posted to Ft. Lincoln. And took the whippets, too.


141 posted on 03/11/2010 12:59:21 PM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: PJ-Comix
Those pics you posted appear to be cowboys of the late 1890s.

Alwats better to post authentic cowboys from the early days:


142 posted on 03/11/2010 1:00:49 PM PST by freedumb2003 ( Tagline lost -- anyone seen it?)
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To: LouAvul
Grandpa mentioned much the same thing. He went to a concentration camp (Buchenwald? not sure, and I really, really wish I had listened more closely when he told me the story) shortly after it was liberated and said that you could smell the place from 20 miles away.

Grandpa wasn't prone to hyperbole; I believe him.

And it was an excellent lesson for me, though it took 15-20 years for me to learn it. More often than not, stories are told for a reason, and sometimes they're only told once. I miss Grandpa, if he was still around I'd listen more and talk less.

143 posted on 03/11/2010 1:15:03 PM PST by wbill
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To: wbill

If you’re interested in your grandfather’s experiences, I’d recommend you read Citizen Soldiers, by Stephen Ambrose.


144 posted on 03/11/2010 1:42:30 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: perez24

Many years ago, I worked in military uniform sales briefly. I was told about that, too. I think they don’t want people impersonating a member of the military, even if it’s for a show or other innocent reason.


145 posted on 03/11/2010 1:46:18 PM PST by married21
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To: stormer

OMG NUDITY!


146 posted on 03/11/2010 1:53:23 PM PST by LongElegantLegs ( I have nothing better to do than sit around all night watching a lunatic not turn into a werewolf.)
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To: LouAvul
Read it already, excellent book. As are others by Ambrose.

"The Wild Blue" surprised me with the unbelievable attrition rate in the AAF.

147 posted on 03/11/2010 1:55:31 PM PST by wbill
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To: NavyCanDo
Authenticity would also demand that the women in the movie not look like the Mom on Little House on the Prairie – but more like Nancy Pelosi without makeup, and dressed from toe to neck in black.

I don't get that, do you think that there was some freak genetic incident that suddenly made white women pretty in 1900?

148 posted on 03/11/2010 2:19:54 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: PJ-Comix
I remember watching a movie about WWII which was ruined by showing a band scene with the musicians wearning floppy Beatles type hair.

Apart from the politics, it was the hair that made MASH unwatchable.

149 posted on 03/11/2010 2:29:21 PM PST by Oratam
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To: stormer

“Oh, and here’s a shot of Calamity Jane - she ain’t riding side-saddle.”

By the looks of her (?) I’m not sure Calamity Jane wasn’t a “Calamity John” if you get my drift.


150 posted on 03/11/2010 2:29:25 PM PST by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: texmexis best

“I am not sure how accurate pistols were in those days as the normal procedure was to cast a bullet and then cut off the flashing with a pocket knife (my reloading side just said “Yikes!!!!!”.)”

Allow me to enlighten you. The pour-hole flashing you refer to is called a sprue. I’ve hand cast and shot probably a thousand round balls and cannot discern any accuracy difference between those and store-bought swaged bullets without the sprue. Modern cap and ball revolvers can be very accurate if you are shooting through a clean barrel. I load the balls into the cylinder with the sprue facing up. The Ruger Old Army is the best repro cap and ball pistol that you can buy. I’m sure some of the old Colts were accurate also.


151 posted on 03/11/2010 2:49:15 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: roamer_1

LOL makes aiming hard!


152 posted on 03/11/2010 2:52:27 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: roamer_1
In the very early days hat styles were driven partly by the flash from a flintlock weapon.

Naw... That's whut them eye patches are for... ; )

You haven't had real excitement until 5 grains of 4F powder flashes up just inches from your nose, followed by a stream of flame from the touch hole. It took some getting used to, but now I don't even blink. Thank goodness for glasses.

153 posted on 03/11/2010 3:07:46 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: ansel12

Have you seen those old yellowed photos of homesteaders standing in front of their sod houses? No Nicole Kidmans in any of them.


154 posted on 03/11/2010 3:09:52 PM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin in 2012 will see the Potomac from her House)
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To: NavyCanDo

I have seen a lot of them, and when I can see a good one where I can make out the details, then I can see a lot of good looking women.

Nicole Kidman is not a new genetic package for white women, our grandmothers and great grandmothers were not dogs that suddenly started producing blond haired, blue eyed beauties and dark haired sirens because the dress fashions changed.


155 posted on 03/11/2010 3:15:55 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: NavyCanDo

Ask yourself this, if you were thrown back to the 1880s, do you really think that once you could see all those young ladies in the flesh and look into their eyes that you would not feel the same way that you always do when you meet young, good looking women?

Perhaps 130 year old black and white photos from primitive camera boxes and poses don’t do a very good job of conveying reality in that sense.


156 posted on 03/11/2010 3:22:17 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: PJ-Comix
For example, yesterday I watched "September Dawn" about the Mountain Meadows Massacre but I couldn't get over the fact of the silly looking hats that folks back then did NOT wear.

Dude, isn't that Romney graphic they stuck in the middle of your posting in poor taste, given that you mention a film about Mountain Meadows?

Sort of like if you were talking about Tarantino's recent WWII film and an anti-Scharzenegger graphic ended up in the middle?

Back then women ALWAYS wore dresses. NEVER pants. Any exposure of female legs or even outlines of their legs was considered as nudity back then.

Okay, but there was Calamity Jane.

FWIW, Unforgiven was unrealistic. In the movie, Morgan Freeman is physically tortured in every way possible, but his tormentors never use any of those racial insults that would have been common at the time. Deadwood was more accurate, the offensive language and all.

157 posted on 03/11/2010 3:25:57 PM PST by x
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To: ansel12
I didn't imply they were all ugly. Only that the women and men on the frontier and settlements in the West led a hard life, and they didn't spend much time at the mirror in the morning making them selves look presentable. They didn't smile much in those old photos either, but that don't mean that had no teeth.
158 posted on 03/11/2010 3:34:49 PM PST by NavyCanDo (Palin in 2012 will see the Potomac from her House)
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To: PJ-Comix

A Boeing B-17 G model in a 1942 setting makes Baby Jesus CRY!


159 posted on 03/11/2010 3:36:50 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: PJ-Comix

My uncle was in the Battle of the Bulge. He always complained about the un-authentic military uniforms that Hollywood used in their films.


160 posted on 03/11/2010 3:58:25 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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