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To: Spiff
I used to recommend FR to my conservative Mormon friends. But the increased attacks and hostility towards anything Mormon has sent them all away.

Can't get much more "hostile" than for your tithing dollars to go for the world-wide expanded translation & publishing of these passages -- that you and yours consider yourselves to be the "only true and living church upon the faith of the earth." (Doctrine & Covenants 1:30)

Spiff, why is your church so hostile to any other being a true and living one?
Do you adhere to 100% of Doctrine & Covenants as your authoritative "scripture?"
How "tolerant" is a Mormon "prophetic revelation" like this one?
If you buy this verse as true, why won't you address your own inconsistency here?

Is the Mormon church the church of the Lamb, as recorded in the Book of Mormon (1 Nephi 14:9-10)? If so, what label does that leave for the rest of the church sects?

How "hospitable" is it for the Mormon church to label the rest of us as "Satanic?" And then not just to claim that is their mere "opinion" -- but to actually claim this is "God's" estimate of us.

Why, how flattering Spiff.

These "scriptures" alone give lie to the Mormon claim that they're so nice & cozy with the rest of us. 'Cause if they were as cozy as they say they are, they wouldn't say one thing to our FReeper face and then turn around and slander us up & down & around the world with their...
...Ensign articles like Kent Jackson (1984) labeling us all apostates...which is still online today through Lds.org...
..."Gospel Principles" basics books for all newcomers to their church...
...books by general authorities & other Lds leaders on our so-called 100% apostasy...
...million-plus missionaries they've had since 1830... accompanied by 4-point outlines that Marion Romney, cousin of George Romney (one of the 3 highest-ranked Mormons in the 1960s), who when he was head of "Lds Missionary Enterprise, Inc." would tell the thousands of Lds missionaries to emphasize our supposed "apostasy" and restoration in their door-to-door conversations...

Until Mormons address this, then those like Spiff who complain about supposed "hostility," thereby displays outright hypocrisy and lack of intellectual integrity over this sharp inconsistency.

Do something, Spiff, about your worldwide slander of us & it might yield us to "perk up." Otherwise, as my tagline says: "If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it."

228 posted on 02/27/2010 11:14:56 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)
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To: Colofornian
But the increased attacks and hostility towards anything Mormon has sent them all away.

I wonder why posting QUOTES from Official MORMON Sources tends to have that effect?

242 posted on 02/28/2010 4:25:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
Spiff, why is your church so hostile to any other being a true and living one?

 
 

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith

 
 
 
There you go again - bashing us MORMONS!
 
You KNOW that in our AoF we have a live and let live line - #11.)

245 posted on 02/28/2010 4:40:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mrreaganaut

ping


269 posted on 02/28/2010 12:57:36 PM PST by reaganaut ( "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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