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iscovery: Electric charge can change freezing point of water
R&D Mag ^ | February 8, 2010 | Lisa Grossman

Posted on 02/24/2010 9:26:25 AM PST by wastedyears

Dunno about their posting rules so I'll leave it at this.


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism
Pretty cool finding.
1 posted on 02/24/2010 9:26:25 AM PST by wastedyears
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To: wastedyears

http://rdmag.com/News/2010/02/Materials-Discovery-Electric-charge-can-change-freezing-point-of-water/


2 posted on 02/24/2010 9:26:37 AM PST by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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To: wastedyears; Salamander; Swordmaker
Electric Universe (Well - Duh!) Ping


3 posted on 02/24/2010 9:32:34 AM PST by shibumi (Health and well being for S. and L. - in Jesus name we pray!)
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To: wastedyears

Israeli scientists discover new properties of water. This bears repeating: New properties of WATER.

Meanwhile, Iranian scientists are screaming anti-semitic insults at styrofoam cups of water, seeing if they too can make it boil with their words / B.O.

Israel is a country in danger, and is full of the some of the top minds in science.


4 posted on 02/24/2010 9:35:04 AM PST by Celerity
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To: wastedyears

Water is some pretty amazing stuff. I believe there are at least 3 or 4 known forms of ice (Ice 1, ice 2, ice 3 etc) and some 10 theoretical forms. Things like superheated super compressed water that becomes a solid.


5 posted on 02/24/2010 9:36:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: cripplecreek

And don’t forget Ice-Nine!
:)


6 posted on 02/24/2010 9:47:28 AM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: astyanax

Wow I had forgotten about that story.

Speaking of Vonnegut, this looks like one awesome and timely flick featuring Tammy Bruce as The Handicapper General.

http://tammybruce.com/2010/01/tammy-movie-2081-coming-out-on-dvd.html


7 posted on 02/24/2010 9:52:00 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: wastedyears

5 really weird things about water.
http://www.neatorama.com/2008/08/22/5-really-weird-things-about-water/


8 posted on 02/24/2010 9:55:44 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: wastedyears

Old news.


9 posted on 02/24/2010 10:03:44 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Weird indeed. Thanks.
10 posted on 02/24/2010 10:04:52 AM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the link.
I had heard nothing of the movie.
Love that story!


11 posted on 02/24/2010 10:52:43 AM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: wastedyears
I have been investigating the unique properties of water.

You can see my "ISCOVERY"

Note the colour blue!

12 posted on 02/24/2010 11:13:20 AM PST by Young Werther (wtih)
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Scientists Freeze Water with Heat
By Charles Q. Choi, LiveScience Contributor
posted: 11 February 2010 08:30 am ET
http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/water-freeze-heat-100211.html

Imagine water freezing solid even as it’s heating up. Such are the bizarre tricks scientists now find water is capable of.

Popular belief contends that water freezes at 32 degrees Fahrenheit (0 degrees Celsius). Surprisingly, if water lies in a smooth bottle and is free of any dust, it can stay liquid down to minus 40 degrees F (minus 40 degrees C) in what’s called “supercooled” form. The dust and rough surfaces that water is normally found in contact with in nature can serve as the kernels around which ice crystals form.

Now researcher Igor Lubomirsky at the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel, and his colleagues have discovered another way to control the freezing point of water — via what are called quasi-amorphous pyroelectric thin films. These surfaces change their electrical charge depending on their temperature.

When pyroelectic surfaces are positively charged, water becomes easier to freeze, and when they have a negative charge, it becomes harder to freeze.

The researchers saw that supercooled water could freeze as it’s being heated, as long as the temperature changes the surface charge as well. For instance, when supercooled water is on a negatively charged lithium tantalate surface, it will freeze solid immediately when the surface is heated to 17.6 degrees F (minus 8 degrees C) and its charge switches to positive.

Curiously, positively charged surfaces inspire supercooled water to freeze from the bottom up, while negatively charged surfaces cause it to freeze from the top down. This likely has to do with how water molecules orient themselves — the negatively charged oxygen atoms in water molecules naturally point toward positively charged surfaces, while the reverse is true with hydrogen atoms.

“The difference between the positive and negative charge was unexpected,” Lubomirsky said.

The ability to better control the freezing temperature of supercooled water could be critical for a variety of applications, including the survival of cold-blooded animals, the cryo-preservation of cells and tissues, the protection of crops from freezing, and the ability to understand and trigger cloud formation.

The scientists detailed their findings in the Feb. 5 issue of the journal Science.


13 posted on 02/24/2010 6:11:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (February 23, 1945 -- Freedom is Priceless.)
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14 posted on 02/24/2010 6:11:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (February 23, 1945 -- Freedom is Priceless.)
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