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1 posted on 02/22/2010 2:19:22 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

The libtards just love when high profile conservatives attack each other. Saves them a lot of trouble.


2 posted on 02/22/2010 2:22:51 PM PST by jazminerose
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To: Steelfish

Bill Bennett is a RINO like Newt “Dede” Gingrich et al.


3 posted on 02/22/2010 2:24:52 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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Bennett is a RINO. He really has no problem with “big government conservatives. Levin is for making the Republican Party more conservative. I agree with Levin and don't trust Bennett.

As for Beck, if he is advocating a third party for conservatives (and I don't listen to him enough to know whether he is or not), I think that would be a mistake at this point because the splintering effect would help the Marxists. However, someone needs to keep the Republicans honest, because they drift leftward any time the heat is not being put on them. And if Beck helps to keep them honest he is doing all of us a favor.

And, by the way, while I like Levin it appears he is extremely jealous of Beck so I try to keep that in mind when I hear of him criticizing Beck.

4 posted on 02/22/2010 2:25:47 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: holdonnow

Bravo Mark.


8 posted on 02/22/2010 2:27:49 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Steelfish

I don’t get it. Mark is wonderful, but this looks peevish on his part. Is this some manner of ill-conceived turf war?


11 posted on 02/22/2010 2:29:21 PM PST by Amagi (Yo, Homeland Security: Stay stupid. Stay PC. Don't profile. Look for the bomb not the bomber.)
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Mark was great Friday.

He mentioned how hard it is to write one single book.

Mentioned ‘some talk show host’ (Beck) who has ‘written’ six in about a year...

Mentioned that the same guy was charging $80 to $120 to go to a show and learn about the constitution.

It was GREAT!

13 posted on 02/22/2010 2:31:58 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm really not Leo Farnsworth.)
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I liked his speech at Cpac, it was quite rousing, and think what it did more than anything, is scare the crap out of the establishment gop. hopefully they took notice. I’m a Libertarian, and I don’t even vote third party and I live in a democrat controlled state where it probably wouldn’t make a difference anyways.


16 posted on 02/22/2010 2:34:10 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Steelfish

Bennett stinks. Levin Good. Beck is out there.


18 posted on 02/22/2010 2:34:54 PM PST by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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Beck’s not obligated to present any particular philosophy, or opinion.

The bitchin’ about Beck’s zany ways is itself reaching a point of hysteria.

If a guy like Beck can disrupt ‘Conservatism’, then ‘Conservatism’ is a hoax along with all the Charlestons that claim to be ‘Conservative’.


22 posted on 02/22/2010 2:44:21 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Steelfish

I agree with Glenn Beck. There really is not a dime’s worth of difference between most of the Republicans in the House and the Senate AND the dems@


23 posted on 02/22/2010 2:44:45 PM PST by Cricket24 (Conservatives Only...NO RINO'S!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Steelfish

Beck is about to discuss the rumor he’s for a third party on his show, in the next segment.


24 posted on 02/22/2010 2:44:53 PM PST by dawn53
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To: Steelfish

I had a snit fit, (technical term hee!) on Beck a couple of weeks ago when he said everyone needed to suffer now and basically let the chips fall where they may in the too big to fail corporations. Beck had not suffered. He has used this crisis to gain popularity and I might add, he used online sources and information to create his theories. But others have suffered horribly and I wondered how they felt that more was coming.

Then I heard part of his CPAC speech and I was ecstatic. I agree both parties have at times legislated Unconstitutional law. I agree both parties have spent like there was a endless supply of money.

For me his message was, “Listen up republicans, get back to the party of conservatism or you are gone.”


26 posted on 02/22/2010 2:52:08 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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I am confused. I heard Beck say that the GOP needs to admit they screwed up and battle big government. He didn’t say to leave the GOP, he said the GOP needs to change. Hard to disagree. They do fine as a minority party, but they need to present what they would do as a majority party.

Not that Beck doesn’t flirt with the idea of a third party in other venues, but he didn’t on Saturday. I don’t totally disagree. Either the GOP needs to become conservative or lose our support. Right now, they seem to be doing the right things.


27 posted on 02/22/2010 2:53:01 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: Steelfish
Why can't the discussion be focused on the Constitution?

Why cannot every criticism raised by one conservative against another be prefaced by an acknowledgement of the beneficial work that has been done along Constitutional lines??

For example, why cannot Levin & Bennett offer constructive criticism to Beck about Beck's dismissive words of all Republican office holders, and complement Beck on the stunning work he does each night highlighting the path blazed by the Founding Father, and how the Obama administration is diametrically opposed??

Can we not begin to rid ourselves of ad hominem attacks, such as Bennett's gambling or anything else of a personal nature that has nothing to do with Constitutional principles??

When, oh when will we find the thread among all conservatives that binds us to the Founding Fathers??

Are we serious about getting our nation back? If so, we had better grow up, and ask our spokesmen to grow up, and stick to constructive criticism and discussion.
30 posted on 02/22/2010 3:06:16 PM PST by jobim
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To: Steelfish

After Becks show today. I love Rush and all, still do, but Beck is more believable, unless you want Romney.


32 posted on 02/22/2010 3:07:49 PM PST by dforest
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To: Steelfish

Beck is challenging conservatives to take back their party, and to reject candidates who are not constitutionalists.

Same thing you hear on FR every day of the week.

That sounds pretty uncontroversial to me.

So when “conservatives” start going after conservatives instead of going after O and the anti-constitutionalists, I smell a rat.

The GOP establishment was falling all over itself to prove its bi-partisan bona fides until an ex-governor and a couple of talk show hosts started pushing back, and the rank and file threw a public fit while sipping tea. Out of that, a few GOP politicians managed to find their spines, and more than a few Dem politicians have panicked and started back-pedaling away from their messiah.

The list of public people who stopped Obama is pretty short. Beck is on that list, along with Limbaugh and a couple of other talkers, and Palin, and DeMint, and Inhofe, and a very few others. Anyone attacking these people I am immediately suspicious of. When we get to the primary season, I expect to see Repubs going after each other. When we’re in the middle of a fight to stop an anti-constitutionalist takeover, I expect allies to stick together.


37 posted on 02/22/2010 3:21:58 PM PST by marron
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but for the Republicans in Congress, government-run health care, cap-and-trade, card check, and a long list of other disastrous policies would already be law? The GOP is becoming more conservative

If the conservative base of the country, along with those that call themselves independents, had not raised holy heck, the Republicans would have folded their opposition tents, and signed on. Republicans LIVE to compromise, to find the "middle ground" of any power grab the D's will come up with.

40 posted on 02/22/2010 3:25:50 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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I think Levin needs to take a look at WHY beck has resonated so much with conservative/libertarian types in the GOP.

Bush was not a Conservative/Libertarian Republican, he was more of a Big Government Social Interventionist type Republican. There is a big difference between the two.


41 posted on 02/22/2010 3:26:24 PM PST by GraceG
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Possibly all the confusion people are feeling is really not from Beck, but from the labels we insist upon, eventhough their meanings keep changing. The classic liberal would now be a conservative, liberals and progressives keep interchanging, the things that Democrats used to stand for, such as the little guy, privacy, etc. are now owned by conservatives who seem to be different from, yet somehow the same as Republicans and so forth. It has gotten to the point that there is so much confusion and sleight of hand from politicians trying to position themselves, that the labels are very confusing. THAT is intentional and I think it may be what Beck is trying to get at. The only thing that you can look for as a constant is TRUTH. See who is doing what they say, who seems to be speaking the truth and when you have decided then go with that person regardless of the label.

Labels should be shorthand to clarify, but they have been used to bypass our critical thinking and put us on automatic pilot when we vote. People no longer think of themselves as “voting Democrat or Republican”, instead they think they ARE a Democrat or Republican...which is quite different...as in “I am choosing apple pie” vs. “I AM apple pie.” Many people I know think they are Democrats, but when the issues are discussed without the label, they are actually Republicans. In addition I think there is a lot of jealousy of Beck for being successful and for daring to tread into intellectual areas as a self-made man. The Ivy League people are intimdated about ceding any of their degree conferred power or power connections to someone who didn’t come up through the elite approved system and get the proper degrees and “pedigrees.” They could as easily stress points of agreement and advance the cause while gently nudging about disagreements...but they choose instead to worry about things like Beck’s books and popularity.


47 posted on 02/22/2010 3:39:35 PM PST by Anima Mundi (The trouble with trouble is it starts out as Utopia)
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This is a policy debate between talking heads on one side- Which is healthy..
Should’ve said this, shouldn’t have said that....I would’ve, could’ve... Like Beck set back the Conservative movement because of one hour of standing ovations in Washington DC exposing truth to power... He’s a so called newcomer that is a threat to those who have been down with the struggle..
Sounds like Sharpton and Jackson if you ask me..

I love to see these talking heads recapping their own speeches to feel self-important on their programs today..

Glenn had me from Who’s in the White House- Bush, Bush Bush, Bush song-
He’s got a conservative friend in me...


50 posted on 02/22/2010 3:46:33 PM PST by delchiante
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