Birtherism For Dummies

Vanity | 02/19/2010 | Wizard1961

[wizard1961]

If BHO is removed from office because he is not a natural citizen, he then becomes a race martyr and Biden becomes president. Hillary probably becomes VP. How would this help conservatives in 2010 and 2012 -- it would hurt us, right?

If the Lewinsky debacle had removed Clinton, Gore would have become President and cruised to his own electorial victory. This would have been a disaster.

I agree there is a puzzle here. I agree there is free speech & everyone has a right to pursue this. My question: is there some angle here that I've missed that makes this smart?

[American Constitutionalist]

" Second, even if he “freed the Long Form”, no matter how documented to be authentic it was; most birthers would insist it was a fraud. "

Yeah, that's the memo talking point thats making the rounds now to make the birthers look illogical, just like the talking point that birthers believe that Obama's grandparents put the news paper adds in the news paper because they knew he would be president one day...

[American Constitutionalist]

" That all other issues go by the wayside
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Who is letting other issues “go by the wayside”????

It's a distraction when they say this talking point, as if they really care..
Of course our side can chew gum, jump, joggle, and walk ( multitask ) at the same time....

[American Constitutionalist]

I say, let the negative narrative continue, so they will be exposed for what they really are and expose their bias.
It's all being documented as we speak... they can't go back and say they didn't do or say such and such at this or that date.
They are EXPOSED !!!!
I say, let the main stream media continue on their own road to destruction, the layoffs and reduced circulation of the papers are proving it.
Hey Main Stream Media ?? yeah ! you hear us ! we know your are listening !
Keep it up !
Call us BIRTHERS !!

[American Constitutionalist]

What the main stream media, David Axselrod , Rahm Emanuel has not figured out YET ,
is ?

The tipping point of them calling us " Kooks " ... " Birthers" ... " Tea Baggers " has already reached a point and played out to the point now that the average citizen with some common sense will know already that the bad names and words are not having any effect on the movement if it was just a " FRINGE " movement and will consider that there must be something actually there.
Look at Obama's poll numbers, look at the less viewership of the news media, look at the growth of the tea party and the latest results of the past few elections.
They are losing the war with their propaganda.

[American Constitutionalist]

" We ARE breaking may MSM narratives these days. "

Actually, they are losing the war with their propaganda.

[American Constitutionalist]

Just apply what the US Constitution says.

[American Constitutionalist]

" IMO, as soon as a person says “Kenya” the audience will immediately “know” who you “are” and will stop listening "
On the contrary, it looks at though the people have started to stop listening to those who are calling Birthers " Kooks " look at MSNBC's ratings... what ever happened to Air Amerika ?

[American Constitutionalist]

" Again, this does not make me happy, but I think people just do not much care. Put another way... I think a majority of folks would be happy to drop the restriction entirely for future elections. "

It's not a " RESTRICTION ", it is a requirement that was written in the US Constitution well over 200 years ago.

[wintertime]

I totally agree. What I meant, though, was there is a limited opportunity (more than time) for any group to pitch their objectives.
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mmmm! mmmm! mmmm! Well that would include you as well!

Why are you wasting you limited opportunity on this “birfer” stuff?

[wintertime]

They are losing the war with their propaganda.
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Yes, they are. Look at the polls. In some states up to 50% ( and likely more) have serious questions about Obama’s eligibility.

What is amazing is that this information about Obama’s eligibility is surging through the population in spite of the media blackout. Merely through the Internet and word of mouth people are learning about the issue.

[wizard1961]

“Why are you wasting you limited opportunity on this “birfer” stuff?”

I was wondering if I was missing something. I've learned a couple things, and I hope others may have as well.

Talking here is different in someways that talking “outside”

Thanks-

[wizard1961]

(It’s not a “ RESTRICTION “, it is a requirement )

Well, okay.

[wizard1961]

“On the contrary, it looks at though the people have started to stop listening to those who are calling Birthers “ Kooks “ look at MSNBC’s ratings... what ever happened to Air Amerika ? “

IMO the troubles of the ultra left media are not connected to a surge in DocumentGate support.

[wizard1961]

“let the negative narrative continue, so they will be exposed for what they really are and expose their bias.”

Yes, but style still matters. When Coulter calls someone on the right a kook... you may not be drunk... but you should probably sit & reflect for a minute or two.

[hennie pennie]

My primary interest in this was initially roused by the incredible research conducted by a number of freepers.

Then, too, it became amusing to read the online PUMAs who were furious that BHO "stole" Hillary's nomination, and LOTS of them, maybe all of them were or are birthers.

However, it was when the MAINSTREAM media, not AIR AMERICA began ridiculing and defaming all the Birthers that I started RE-reading many dozens & dozens of threads about the missing long form certificate of birth.

WHY is the MAINSTREAM media attempting to ridicule and shame Americans who are curious about the truth of this matter and are concerned that entire Beltway has tossed the Constitution.

When the far fringe Lefties rant & rail about Birfers and call them bigoted & racist & white-cone-hatted members of the KKK ... well, stupid remarks like that are expected from such a source.

But when Glenn Beck comes out to batter the Birthers, that's it.... that's ENOUGH. That is so off the wall, that I will NEVER listen to and/or watch him EVER again, not for ANY reason.

So, although I read many many many threads over the past few years about the potential country of origin of BHO, it wasn't until FOX NEWS told me I was a ignorant backwoods peasant that I became adament about being a BIRFER.

WHY is the MAINSTREAM media so very werry concerned about the people who wonder WHO is Barack Hussein Obama???

Finally, I am very sick and tired of online cyberbullies telling me to NOT be interested in this issue --- who the he$$ are they to tell me what to be interested in?

I do not know a single person in real life among all my friends and family who is NOT interested to find out the reason for the psychopathological hostility of the ANTI-birfers, and of course to find out where Barry was really born and why he hides everything about himself.

Nowadays, I'm also curious how the black community will react if they learn that BHO and his closest cronies have been long term deep cover CIA operatives.

Will they be PROUD of their country's president, or will they angrily view him as a 'snitch'????

[hennie pennie]

In the ECONOMIST Poll last week, it was found that 21 percent of all Americans want to find out about the REAL birth certificate.

And I'm positive that plenty of them are reacting even more stubbornly than I, that they also will NOT permit the MSM nor a pack of gangbanging cyberbullies to disengage their interest in this.

WHO does they all think they are, to attempt to DICTATE to others where their research interests should be??????

What utter arrogant nonsense.

[wizard1961]

“21 percent of all Americans want to find out about the REAL birth certificate.”

I saw a poll two weeks ago that said 10% of California Democrats are interesting in the documentation.

There are ways to advance this issue without triggering the “kook” reaction.

[wizard1961]

“if they learn that BHO and his closest cronies have been long term deep cover CIA operatives. “

People who think you are crazy do not listen to you.

You, know, without the blue dress.... the “truth” of the Lewinski relationship would not have mattered.

Having a strong feeling & commitment is not enough.

[hennie pennie]

Your deep concern is what OTHERS WILL THINK OF YOU????

BWAAAhahahahahahahaha!

What a young fool you are.

GOOD BYE AND GOOD RIDDANCE.

[hennie pennie]

YOU are the k00k, you little ol' RINO who's so desperately AFRAID of what others think, what a completely immature putrid board bully you are.

DO NOT POST ANY MORE TO ME.