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NASA moon plan was an illusion, wrapped in denial
New Scientist Space ^ | 02/11/10 | Henry Spencer

Posted on 02/11/2010 5:47:15 PM PST by KevinDavis

NASA's Constellation programme, which was going to fly manned capsules to the International Space Station in (maybe) 2015, to the moon in (maybe) 2020, and to Mars someday, is dead. Some people are mourning it. I'm not.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: americainretreat; bhobudget; bhonasa; constellation; dufusluddite; luddite4obama; moonbase; obamaantiprogress; space
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To: WhiskeyX
Obama’s mission is to implement the Cloward-Piven Strategy

Failure to maintain the high ground in space exploration is a coward-driven strategy...

21 posted on 02/11/2010 6:29:23 PM PST by mikrofon (Space BUMP)
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To: KevinDavis
Well, I heard on Fox yesterday that Constellation might not be dead after all. It seems last fall, politicians from states with a lot of space related industry, slipped an amendment into the most recent NASA funding bill that prevented Obama or NASA from ending constellation unless congress votes to end it. So the only way to actually STOP constellation would be a vote in both houses of congress. So this might just end up being another loser for Obama.
22 posted on 02/11/2010 6:31:21 PM PST by apillar
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To: mikrofon

I am truly grateful he was not president when space exploration was getting started.


23 posted on 02/11/2010 6:31:35 PM PST by MamaB (If you see someone without a smile, give them yours.)
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To: MamaB; All

Same here...


24 posted on 02/11/2010 6:37:17 PM PST by KevinDavis (Ad Astra Per Aspera!!!)
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To: KevinDavis
It surprises me that you'd say that. Probes have done incredible work. They absolutely have their place.

As does manned exploration.......it's a stupendous mistake to put manned missions on the back burner.

25 posted on 02/11/2010 6:59:48 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Psycho_Bunny; All

I was wrong in saying that... I can see that robots and humans in space together..


26 posted on 02/11/2010 7:03:03 PM PST by KevinDavis (Ad Astra Per Aspera!!!)
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To: Habibi

Making a convincing economic argument for it would have helped, but no one was able to do it.

Sure they did many times, but the liberal NASA hating media refused to publish.


27 posted on 02/11/2010 7:18:21 PM PST by PIF
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To: mylife

“It seems that the entire plan is to make us all complacent crumb grabbers.”’

It seems that the entire plan is to make us all complacent Democrate voting crumb grabbers.

Fixed


28 posted on 02/11/2010 7:20:42 PM PST by PIF
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To: apillar
Sounds like it is time for Cass Sunstien to step in and implement new regulations overriding congress...
29 posted on 02/11/2010 7:23:01 PM PST by PIF
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To: PIF

Isnt that what I said?

Mmmmmm Mmmmm Mmmmm... Barack Hussien Obama....


30 posted on 02/11/2010 7:23:56 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

You left out the Dem voting part. :)


31 posted on 02/11/2010 7:28:47 PM PST by PIF
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To: mylife
It seems that the entire plan is to make us all complacent crumb grabbers.

Bingo.
32 posted on 02/11/2010 8:06:56 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

I hate this some bitch.

Teaching our children to be thankful for crumbs.


33 posted on 02/11/2010 8:12:13 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife

It is all about control, amigo; that is the goal of the statist bumwads.


34 posted on 02/11/2010 9:05:46 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: KevinDavis

Well, now Obama can give the money to ACORN.


35 posted on 02/11/2010 9:10:02 PM PST by airborne ("Peace, Love, Dope" has now become "Hope, Change, Obama" !!!)
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To: PIF

Well, the media must have done a pretty good job at squelching it because I never heard a convincing economic argument for manned space (unless you want a job stimulus program for geeks). Not that they wouldn’t have jobs in the space program anyway. You still need engineers, but they wouldn’t need to engineer anywhere close to the amount necessary for manned systems. Unmanned is much less of a task, which means fewer geek jobs. Still, there’s a better chance of making economic sense out of the projects when they’re simplified in this way.


36 posted on 02/11/2010 9:13:07 PM PST by Habibi ("It is vain to do with more what can be done with less." - William of Occam)
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To: mylife
While I agree with you on Obama...

NASA has been collasally inept since Apollo 17.

The space shuttle was oversold from the beginning and is a resource hog.

And what exactly does the International Space Station do other be a reason for the space shuttle and visa versa? And what's with that wimpy name?

I would much rather see NASA fire the bureaucrats in Washington and refocus on space exploration.

37 posted on 02/11/2010 9:21:35 PM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: starlifter

Sign me up for field engineer on hubble.

Something others said was bs


38 posted on 02/11/2010 9:26:57 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: mylife
Actually my sentiment was NASA is inept in manned spaceflight.

They do marvelous things in the unmanned arena.

Agree with you on Hubble.

39 posted on 02/11/2010 9:37:39 PM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: OldDeckHand
The cost of the 13-year Apollo program was somewhere in the vicinity of $150 billion, in today's dollars.

Source?

The dividends from such an endeavor would probably triple or quadruple the principle investment in less than a decade.

Using a fifty year old concept with already developed technology? And not achieving the first Moon landing until 2020 if everything went perfectly. How do you figure?

John Kennedy had his faults, but the space program was one of the wisest Presidential initiatives of the 20th Century.

For all practical purposes the Apollo program was already underway before JFK hitched his wagon to it.

The technology developed during that program is the basis for many of the technologies that lead our country and our economy today.

No it isn't. For instance, while the space program helped the early integrated circuit market by buying a lot of them, the technology was developed independent of the space program.

40 posted on 02/11/2010 9:44:23 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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