4 8 15 16 23 42 Lost Season 6 The Final Chapter

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[Lucky9teen]

Maybe he was still a kid in 77 and was put on the sub with the mothers and children when DHARMA evacuated?

[Fudd Fan]

16 was Sayid. The ceiling of the cave said 16-Jarrah though, not Sayid. It looked like the ceiling was written on using only their last names.

4 - ???
8 - Reyes
15 - Ford (Sawyer)
16 - Jarrah
23 - Shephard
42 - Kwon

Anyone recall who was 4?

[Lucky9teen]

Names on the Wall- Complete List Here!!!

This is not my own finding. I got this from Dark UFO. Here’s the link to the thread.

http://forum.spoilertv.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=16297

Most of the names are VERY familiar, including Gary Troupe. Here is the list:

4 - Locke (John)
8 - Reyes (Hurley)
10 - Mattingley - Other
15 - Ford (James)
16 - Jarrah (Sayid)
23 - Shephard (Jack)
31 - Rutherford (Shannon)
42 - Kwon (Jin or Sun)
56 - Burke - (Juliet)
64 - Goodspeed (Horace, Ethan)
70 - Faraday (Daniel)
73 - Costa - ?
90 - Troupe - ?
115 - Bargas - ?
117 - Linus (Ben, Roger)
119 - Almeida - ?
142 - Lewis (Charlotte)
171 - Straume (Miles)
195 - Pace (Charlie)
222 - O’Toole - U.S. Military
233 - Jones - U.S. Military
291 - Domingo - U.S. Military
313 - Littleton (Claire or Aaron)
317 - Cunningham - U.S. Military
337 - Martin (Karl) - Other
346 - Grant - U.S. Military

Partial
20 - Rous (Possibly Rousseau)
25 - ___
30 - ___
33 - ___
49 - Cha (Possibly Chang)
62 - ___
251 - ___
260 - ___
272 - ___
285 - Jen (Possibly Jenkins)
330 - ___
__ - Reynolds
__ - Sullivan
__ - Lacombe

[mom4kittys]

thanks for the list. Im curious why Kate isn’t on it.
also I thought Ilana said Frank was a candidate?

[BelegStrongbow]

Locke. Lockemonster crossed the name out to signify he’s dead.

[Lloyd227]

"Maybe he was still a kid in 77 and was put on the sub with the mothers and children when DHARMA evacuated?"

Well, yes. He was still a kid, he looks to be about 11/12 perhaps. Remember the episode where Sayid shot him, then Kate took Ben to "The Others" and Richard took Ben into the Temple to be healed?

Well as far as I can recall, Ben had only just been taken into the Temple when Kate was captured by Security and put on the sub to be evacuated along with Sawyer and Juliet. So, Ben wasn't available to be evacuated along with the other women and children as he was with The Others in the Temple at that point in time.

So how does he show up in the alternate thread as a school teacher now?

[ShadowAce]

Interesting-- 4 is Locke

But I thought 42 was Jarrah (Sayid).

[diamond6]

This is probably a stretch, but could Roseauu’s spirit claimed Claire’s body?

[mom4kittys]

I thought of that too! Or she has the same sickness or has been claimed. whatever that means.

[ShadowAce]

I was wrong—42 is Kwon as mentioned above.

[Lloyd227]

The Japanese dude in charge at the temple, some spell his name "Dogen" others "Dogon".  I don't know, but found this rather interesting bit of trivia online here...

 

The Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B

In Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. According to their traditions, the star Sirius has a companion star which is invisible to the human eye. This companion star has a 50 year elliptical orbit around the visible Sirius and is extremely heavy. It also rotates on its axis.

This legend might be of little interest to anybody but the two French anthropologists, Marcel Griaule and Germain Dieterlen, who recorded it from four Dogon priests in the 1930's. Of little interest except that it is exactly true. How did a people who lacked any kind of astronomical devices know so much about an invisible star? The star, which scientists call Sirius B, wasn't even photographed until it was done by a large telescope in 1970.

The Dogon stories explain that also. According to their oral traditions, a race people from the Sirius system called the Nommos visited Earth thousands of years ago. The Nommos were ugly, amphibious beings that resembled mermen and mermaids. They also appear in Babylonian, Accadian, and Sumerian myths. The Egyptian Goddess Isis, who is sometimes depicted as a mermaid, is also linked with the star Sirius.

The Nommos, according to the Dogon legend, lived on a planet that orbits another star in the Sirius system. They landed on Earth in an "ark" that made a spinning decent to the ground with great noise and wind. It was the Nommos that gave the Dogon the knowledge about Sirius B.

The legend goes on to say the Nommos also furnished the Dogon's with some interesting information about our own solar system: That the planet Jupiter has four major moons, that Saturn has rings and that the planets orbit the sun. These were all facts discovered by Westerners only after Galileo invented the telescope.

The story of the Dogon and their legend was first brought to popular attention by Robert K.G. Temple in a book published in 1977 called The Sirius Mystery. Science writer Ian Ridpath and astronomer Carl Sagan made a reply to Temple's book, suggesting that this modern knowledge about Sirius must have come from Westerners who discussed astronomy with the Dogon priests. The priests then included this new information into the older traditions. This, in turn, mislead the anthropologists.

This is a possibility considering Sirius B's existence was suspected as early as 1844 and seen was through a telescope in 1862. It doesn't seem to explain a 400-year old Dogon artifact that apparently depicts the Sirius configuration nor the ceremonies held by the Dogon since the 13th century to celebrate the cycle of Sirius A and B. It also doesn't explain how the Dogons knew about the super-density of Sirius B, a fact only discovered a few years before the anthropologists recorded the Dogon stories.

It is also important to remember that although many parts of the Dogon legends seem to ring true, other portions are clearly mistaken. One of the Dogon's beliefs is that Sirius B occupied the place where our Sun is now. Physics clearly prohibits this. Also, if the Dogon believe that Sirius B orbits Sirius A every 50 years, why do they hold their celebrations every 60 years?

Sirius A is the brightest star in our sky and can easily be seen in the winter months in the northern hemisphere. Look for the constellation Orion. Orion's belt are the three bright stars in a row. Follow an imaginary line through the three stars to Sirius which is just above the horizon. It is bluish in color.

Sirius is only 8.6 light years from Earth. Astronomer W.Bessel was the first to suspect that Sirius had an invisible companion when he observed that the path of the star wobbled. In the 1920's it was determined that Sirius B, the companion of Sirius, was a "white dwarf" star. The pull of its gravity caused Sirius's wavy movement.

White dwarfs are small, dense stars that burn dimly. Sirius B is, in fact, smaller than the planet Earth. One teaspoon of Sirius B is so dense that it weighs 5 tons.

So did alien fish-men pay a visit to ancient Earth and give the Dogon their knowledge? Or was the Dogon's culture contaminated by western visitors? Or could the Dogon's have had ancient technical or non-technical means to find this information out? Or is the whole thing just a matter of coincidence?

The question maybe settled as larger and more powerful telescopes take a look at the Sirius system. According to the legend there is a third star: Sirius C, and it is around Sirius C that the home planet of the Nommos orbits. Most scientists do not consider any part of the Sirius system a prime candidate for life, though.

When Temple first issued his book in the 1970's there was no solid evidence of a Sirius C. In 1995, however, two French researchers, Daniel Benest and J.L. Duvent, authored an article in the prestigious journal Astronomy and Astrophysics with the title Is Sirius a Triple Star? and suggested (based on observations of motions in the Sirius system) there is a small third star there. They thought the star was probably of a type known as a "red dwarf" and only had about .05 the mass of Sirius B.

So has the home star of the Nommos been discovered? Or is this just another strange coincidence?

[cherry]

Sawyer has rapidly become my favorite too..since we don’t see Dez and poor Charlie is gone, as well as Adorkable(Daniel)...Sawyer has such a profoundly human character I just love him...but Locke and Ben....I don’t trust them...

[Lucky9teen]

RECAP TIME!!!

When it comes to good and evil, the characters of Lost have always been harder to pin down than the symbolism surrounding them.

Take, for example, the scales in the Cliffside Cave, where a black rock and a white rock balance each other out, eternally opposed. So of course, Flocke immediately grabs the white rock and chucks it into the ocean. The symbolism may be obvious, but Flocke's ideological alignment? Not so much.

Keep reading here: Why You Are Here: "The Substitute" - Recap by Robz888

[omega4179]

I think Flocke’s evil is very much in doubt. I just see Jacob using people and changing their destinies for his own needs.

One thing that needs to be answered is if Smokey is a sentient being why did it allow Ben to summon it and attack the Mercenaries? Why did it only kill one Mercenary but easily took out 4 Jacob stooges 3 years later? Why did Ilana stay outside the temple and survive?

[svcw]

I agree.
The assumption that the white is good and the black is bad (evil), those assumption my be incorrect.

[omega4179]

Richard was terrified of Flocke. Well That proves nothing, Richard gave up something for eternal youth, and we know low level Demons are terrified of good (Legion and other exorcisms). Jacob seems to know a lot, yet keeps nominating candidates that end up dead. How is he good? at what level has he been good so far? He did not flinch when Nadia was killed right in front of him, is that how an Angel would act?

[justsaynomore]

Thanks for the ping.

Does anyone else wonder if the “list” in that cave was actually the man in black’s list and not Jacob? Maybe that was his list of people to eliminate!

[Gothmog]

I’m not much into biblical translation, but to me this seems to be the continuing battle betwwen Jacob and Esau, which I think accounts for fans’ trouble deciding which one is right. Anyone want to educate me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob

[diamond6]

I thought that too!

[Lloyd227]

uh......... sorry, but who is "Flocke" ??

Did you mean John Locke?