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Major Antarctic glacier is 'past its tipping point' (It's a catastrophe!!!!)
newscientist.com ^ | Jan. 13, 2010 | Shanta Barley

Posted on 01/13/2010 5:39:13 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

A major Antarctic glacier has passed its tipping point, according to a new modelling study. After losing increasing amounts of ice over the past decades, it is poised to collapse in a catastrophe that could raise global sea levels by 24 centimetres.

Pine Island glacier (PIG) is one of many at the fringes of the West Antarctic ice sheet. In 2004, satellite observations showed that it had started to thin, and that ice was flowing into the Amundsen Sea 25 per cent faster than it had 30 years before.

Now, the first study to model changes in the ice sheet in three dimensions shows that PIG has probably passed a critical "tipping point" and is irreversibly on track to lose 50 per cent of its ice in as little as 100 years, significantly raising global sea levels.

The team that carried out the study admits their model can represent only a simplified version of the physics that govern changes in glaciers, but say that if anything, the model is optimistic and PIG will disappear faster than it projects.

Richard Katz of the University of Oxford and colleagues developed the model to explore whether the retreat of the "grounding line" – the undersea junction at which a floating ice shelf becomes an ice sheet grounded on the sea bed – could cause ice sheets to collapse.

Warm seas

Climate change is warming the Amundsen Sea, which is at the southern margin of the Pacific Ocean. As rising sea levels push the warm water beneath the ice shelves, it melts them from below, pushing the grounding line higher up the continental shelf.

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: agw; antarctic; antarctica; catastrophism; climategate; glacier; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; tippingpoint; wereallgonnadie
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"according to a new modelling study"

My model says something far different ~ give me the money first.

21 posted on 01/13/2010 6:14:05 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Bean Counter

““As your attorney, I advise you to drink heavily...”

LOL - party on, Garth!


22 posted on 01/13/2010 6:14:25 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: PistolPaknMama
Nobody alive now will be alive then, with the one exception of possibly Al Gore.

Yes, trees often live a couple of hundred years.

23 posted on 01/13/2010 6:19:32 PM PST by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: diverteach

I was thinking of a shorter drive to the beach!


24 posted on 01/13/2010 6:22:07 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Free ThinkerNY; steelyourfaith; SunkenCiv

Climate model: sophisticated name for an upscale video game.


25 posted on 01/13/2010 6:26:22 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

“Notice all the bad stuff happens 100 years from now. And the stuff that was supposed to happen earlier has been pushed back due to this inconvinient global cooling.”

Yeah, that’s the ticket - no one will be alive to remind them of their mistakes. Given the quiet sun, one more winter like this one and these clowns will be ducking snowballs at press conferences (which I think would be much funnier than shoes).


26 posted on 01/13/2010 6:28:21 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

25 cm = 9.8 inches - build the Ark now!


27 posted on 01/13/2010 6:30:09 PM PST by PIF
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To: ApplegateRanch; 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
...it is poised to collapse in a catastrophe that could raise global sea levels by 24 centimetres.
I read about this on the front page as I finished my paper route on Mars yesterday. :')

Thanks ApplegateRanch!
 
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28 posted on 01/13/2010 6:30:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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Area of Earth’s surface:
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/DanielChen.shtml


29 posted on 01/13/2010 6:32:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Bhoy
It’s all over now, these models are in 3D! It’s gotta be true — it’s in 3D!

Not quite! It is only REGULAR 3-D; not Blue Ray 3-D.

30 posted on 01/13/2010 6:32:29 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Durn, I should have kept my land in Yuma,Az. It will become beachfront property!


32 posted on 01/13/2010 6:33:03 PM PST by TMSuchman (Semper Fi & Carpe Diem... carry out the plan of the day!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s “Pants on the Ground” for this glacier!


33 posted on 01/13/2010 6:33:39 PM PST by rabidralph ("Precedenting" is a lot tougher than community organizing.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel

Hmm... 361800000*.0024=868320 cubic km? That’s a lot of cubic km of water. I think that’s what would be required to raise sealevels 24 cm.


34 posted on 01/13/2010 6:37:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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http://www.analyzemath.com/Calculators_3/cube_root_calculator.html

95.40254 is the cube root of 868320.


35 posted on 01/13/2010 6:39:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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Beam Me to Planet Gore !

36 posted on 01/13/2010 6:44:46 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Freedom from fat cat greedy Big Government tyranny IS a Right ... It IS the Constitution.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanx !
37 posted on 01/13/2010 6:50:05 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Freedom from fat cat greedy Big Government tyranny IS a Right ... It IS the Constitution.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think you’re an order of magnitude high. 24 cm = 0.00024 km, not .0024

The volume of a thin shell goes as:

A x dR

A, the area of the earth’s oceans is roughly 3.6 x 10^8 km^2.

dR, the thickness of the shell is 24 cm = 0.24 m = 0.00024 km = 2.4 x 10^(-4) km

So the required volume is 3.6 x 10^8 x 2.4 x 10^(-4)km^3 =

8.64 x 10^4 km^3 = 86,400 km^3.


38 posted on 01/13/2010 7:00:20 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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39 posted on 01/13/2010 7:13:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Don't eat your dog; eat obnoxious, liberal humans to save the planet!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I recently read that tiny Ceres, at one time the ninth planet, holds more water than all the earth’s oceans.


40 posted on 01/13/2010 7:17:24 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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