Evolution caught in the act: Scientists measure how quickly genomes change

Physorg.com ^ | January 1, 2010 | Max-Planck-Gesellschaft

[Restore]

Fascinating

[edzo4]

I believe in creation and evolution, obviously changes have occured over time, but evolution does not explain how the moon got there

[freedumb2003]

Get ready for the “but this is plants, not people” AND “this isn’t speciation” (it is) crows in 3...2...1...

[Recovering_Democrat]

Gosh, I’m convinced. not.

[freedumb2003]

>>ut evolution does not explain how the moon got there<<

Nor should it. That is closer to geology. Chemistry doesn’t explain it either.

[freedumb2003]

>>Gosh, I’m convinced. not.<<

And your refutation is...?

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God created evolution.

Nice job, God. Cool stuff.

[freedumb2003]

>>Nice job, God. Cool stuff.<<

The God that created Evolution as part of a Universe that follows extremely complex rules that can be discovered and harnessed is awesome, almost beyond imagination.

A God that *zaps* things into existence is Gandalf writ large and easy for small/primitive minds to comprehend. Science in 2000 BC was unheard of except as recording empirical effects of phenomenon.

My God, who sent His Son to die for us all, created the complex Universe — and gave Man the ability to explore it, although we will never understand it all.

[freedumb2003]

BTW — I am just expanding on your succinct post :)

[OldNavyVet]

DNA’s inability to copy itself without mistakes -- mutation – means that evolution is inevitable. Natural selection does no more than capitalize on that fact. Species, too, are by-products of the Mendelian machinery. They emerge from the apparatus of inheritance, from the ways that genes join forces to do their job. If genes for size, shape or behavior work together only in the right combinations, then, as different mixtures build up in different places, the origin of species becomes inevitable. Once established, they may evolve further, but, of their nature, species happen by accident.

Steve Jones, “Darwin’s Ghost,” pages 170-171.

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bfltr

[mnehring]

but evolution does not explain how the moon got there

Because evolution isn't astronomy or geophysics.

[PeterPrinciple]

Personally, I am more a believer in devolution. I think all the genetic information is there originally, and that some of it is lost lost or changed over time............

[mnehring]

+1

[BlueYonder]

The science of wishful thinking delves deeper into its understanding of the fundamental principle of randomness.

[edzo4]

I know, explain that to the liberals!

[remaxagnt]

can someone please tell me when evolution stopped?

[OldNavyVet]

"... evolution does not explain how the moon got there."

We live not a hundred million but four thousand five hundred million years since the Earth was spun from dust and rock around the sun. The evidence comes not from our own planet, but from its satellite. The Moon flew off its parent after a giant impact. Because it stayed small, cold and undisturbed it gives a better picture of the past than its parent. A quick trip by the Apollo XI mission was enough to date it. The Earth’s turmoil makes it harder to trace its own origin. Its oldest rocks, found in Greenland and Western Australia, are just under four billion years old.

Steve Jones, “Darwin’s Ghost,” page 195.

[freedumb2003]

>>can someone please tell me when evolution stopped?<<

It hasn’t. You have vestigial organs of no current use (the appendix, male teats, democrats) that are pretty clear signs that we are evolving still and shedding no longer useful parts (obviously some not quickly enough).

[freedumb2003]

>>The science of wishful thinking delves deeper into its understanding of the fundamental principle of randomness.<<

And your refutation to the article is? (and, although it doesn’t use the term, it isn’t “random” it is stochastic)