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To: Echo4C

Name one player who looks like him and went from skinny kid to where he is now. You do not know about golf or the PGA. Titleist has a facility devoted to golf fitness. Ditto Callaway and Nike. No other Nike player looks like Tiger. Lucas Glover probably being the strongest Nike player after Tiger.

Sergio is pretty strong but he is not like Tiger. Anthony Kim is not that strong, he gets distance with technique and club speed. It appears his “work ethic” was devoted towards something. Vijay Singh works just as hard and his workout is on YouTube and he is not that big.

The evidence that Tiger is jucing is his skinny calves. If he was so effective in the gym, his calves would be bigger.


336 posted on 12/06/2009 8:39:09 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Frantzie

You’re continuing with your false dichotomy. Saying I know nothing about the PGA is laughable. I watch as much golf as probably anyone here. I also play the sport (and shoot in the low-mid 80s, not exactly great but not a beginner either). As I stated earlier, I even went to all three years of Tiger’s tournament here in DC (AT&T National) and attended all five days (four tournament days plus pro-am). The sport itself has nothing to do with it.

What I’m arguing is against all these people in here that, due to their poor genes, bad workout habits (including overtraining), and bad nutrition, think it’s impossible to achieve the body Tiger has. Guess what, I look almost as big as Tiger (with a relatively low body fat %) and have been doing weight training for a less amount of time, and I don’t use gear. Just because Vijay works just as hard as Tiger (if not harder, I know Vijay is notorious for his workouts) doesn’t mean he’s doing the same stuff that Tiger does. Not all workouts are equal, and even if one is “harder” than another doesn’t mean they’ll have an equal effect. Vijay does a lot of Crossfit-type exercises, which are great for conditioning but not for building muscle. Tiger, on the other hand, spends a lot of time in the gym lifting iron, which is more conducive to hypertrophy.

Believe it or not, you put it best. These facilities are for “golf fitness”, which is not exactly the same thing as what Tiger does, which is lift weights.

As far his calves go, calves are one of the hardest muscles to develop. His calves don’t look particularly skinny to me, but you’d be surprised how many people who lift weights properly are self-conscious about their calf-size. That’s certainly no indication of drug use. Do you think people who use drugs like HGH and steroids don’t exercise in the gym? Because that’s not what they do for you. They essentially make overtraining a non-issue, which means more time in the gym (and bigger calves, not smaller).


343 posted on 12/06/2009 8:57:34 AM PST by Echo4C
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To: Frantzie

Look at the best jumpers in the NBA. Almost all have slender calves.


377 posted on 12/06/2009 1:57:22 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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