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To: Frantzie

You’re continuing with your false dichotomy. Saying I know nothing about the PGA is laughable. I watch as much golf as probably anyone here. I also play the sport (and shoot in the low-mid 80s, not exactly great but not a beginner either). As I stated earlier, I even went to all three years of Tiger’s tournament here in DC (AT&T National) and attended all five days (four tournament days plus pro-am). The sport itself has nothing to do with it.

What I’m arguing is against all these people in here that, due to their poor genes, bad workout habits (including overtraining), and bad nutrition, think it’s impossible to achieve the body Tiger has. Guess what, I look almost as big as Tiger (with a relatively low body fat %) and have been doing weight training for a less amount of time, and I don’t use gear. Just because Vijay works just as hard as Tiger (if not harder, I know Vijay is notorious for his workouts) doesn’t mean he’s doing the same stuff that Tiger does. Not all workouts are equal, and even if one is “harder” than another doesn’t mean they’ll have an equal effect. Vijay does a lot of Crossfit-type exercises, which are great for conditioning but not for building muscle. Tiger, on the other hand, spends a lot of time in the gym lifting iron, which is more conducive to hypertrophy.

Believe it or not, you put it best. These facilities are for “golf fitness”, which is not exactly the same thing as what Tiger does, which is lift weights.

As far his calves go, calves are one of the hardest muscles to develop. His calves don’t look particularly skinny to me, but you’d be surprised how many people who lift weights properly are self-conscious about their calf-size. That’s certainly no indication of drug use. Do you think people who use drugs like HGH and steroids don’t exercise in the gym? Because that’s not what they do for you. They essentially make overtraining a non-issue, which means more time in the gym (and bigger calves, not smaller).


343 posted on 12/06/2009 8:57:34 AM PST by Echo4C
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To: Echo4C

If steroids etc really helped his golf game there would be more players using them —just so they could compete with him


348 posted on 12/06/2009 9:04:53 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Echo4C

Thanks for admitting it about the calves. I guess the roids don’t get down there.

Tiger had his knee surgery and hiatus from the PGA for over 8 months a week before they started mandatory drug testing for ROIDs. One small fish recently got banned due to probably cold medcine. The PGA is so corrupt.

I doubt the PGA even tests Tiger because of the money he brings in. You are obviously a fan boy. I know personally how much progress you can make with the right diet and exercise routine. I use a routine Steve Reeves used and he was not on ROIDs. No way Toger got tha mass naturally.


353 posted on 12/06/2009 9:08:30 AM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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