Posted on 11/24/2009 1:46:39 PM PST by Steelfish
You should try reading your own Bible than you won’t make foolish replies!
You see, once you believe in the Great Commission, then you enter a fork on the road. One fork establishes that the “teaching authority” is to his apostles and their successors and the other leads to multiple interpretations with no authoritative underpinnings.
The Great Commission
The most famous and influential New Testament text pertaining to evangelization appears at the end of Matthew’s Gospel. It is part of the appearance of the risen Jesus to eleven of his apostles (the Twelve minus Judas). The appearance takes place on a mountain in Galilee. When the disciples see the risen Jesus, some pay him homage while others hesitate or even doubt. This sets the scene for the words of the risen Jesus that are traditionally known as the “Great Commission.” The text appears in Matthew 28:18b-20:
“All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.”
This is the Church triumphant in insuring that the “teaching” of the Christ is not in error. Hence the litany of saints and miracles attesting the execution of Divine and unerring authority. The “teaching” to all the “disciples” must be the same. How does one insure this without a Divinely inspired authority?
JS ASSUMES it is God and Jesus, neither of the personages say who they are.
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1st personage: “Yo, this is my son, hear him”
Yes the possibilities are endless...
Sanford and son...
Dad and one of My Three Sons...
Dad and one of the Bradey boys..
Son of Sam and his Dad
Sonny Boy on Dads knee
A yellow warthog and his piglet son ???
A pink elephant and his son ??
A Quaker from the moon and his Moonie son ???
A Quaker from the Sun and his Sunny Boy ???
etc...
Nowhere is there ever a record of the so called smartest 14 year old in the world ever asking “and just WHO might you be?”
Nor the 1st personage ever telling Joey who he was...
And just what was junior going to do ???
recite Beowulf ??
Sing an Aria from Carmen ??
Play Chopsticks ?
Play the fool ??
Play the fiddle ??
Audition for Carnegie Hall ???
Didnt the 1st personage know that Joey was not a Broadway
producer ???
I am just astounded that Satan is STILL getting mileage out of that lie.
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Hes had thousands of years to perfect it...
hes studied mankind in order to know how to corrupt us...
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yep. combine that with the darkness JS claims over him, makes you think it was demonic rather than deity.
I’m thinking about more recent history. Mormons basically DID stand up to the Clinton regime and paid for it with the loss of that low-sulfur coal region which SlicKKK turned into a national park with a stroke of the pen and which George W. Bush never reversed or otherwise tried to undo.
What was the name of the park or the year etc ???
I am just astounded that Satan is STILL getting mileage out of that lie.
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The pride of man is an easy mark. The idea of becoming God or like God is a powerful motivator to those who don’t know Christ.
John 10
33. The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
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Yes, when someone blasphemes my Lord and Savior by thinking they can elevate themselves anywhere near His level, I get “emotional and crazed”. Blasphemy does that to real Christians.
Taking scripture out of context again resty. Jesus is quoting the OT (Psalm 82). The ‘gods’ there refer to Judges in Israel, not becoming like god.
Reading the bible in context, pays off.
Here is something to help you out with that:
http://www.onenesspentecostal.com/yegods.htm
ouch.
Honey, not that it is any concern of yours, but I DO read my Bible, every single day. I also have a college degree in it.
And sorry, but you are the one with foolish replies. But we love you anyway.
I do believe in the Great Commission, that is exactly WHY I am on these Mormonism threads.
My authority comes from Christ alone.
Go in Peace brother, I have REAL heretics to fight (these Mormons).
chuckle.
I keep up on those things but apparently missed that one. Details please?
Of course not. It's Joe's Myth. Anyone with any sense realizes that.
How long do you think it will be before he asks you again if you think Catholics are Christians?
Honey, not that it is any concern of yours, but I DO read my Bible, every single day. I also have a college degree in it.
And sorry, but you are the one with foolish replies. But we love you anyway.
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How condesending and haughty of you oh well small god!:)
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Your degree from the “Tradition of Men” is the very thing the Lord called an abomination as spoken in
Isa 29
13 ¶ Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?
16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potters clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
Matt. 15:
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
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But the gods of which I speak of are children of the Most High
Ps. 82:
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
Luke 6:
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Doc & Cov 121
28 A time to come in the which nothing shall be withheld, whether there be one God or many gods, they shall be manifest.
29 All thrones and dominions, principalities and powers, shall be revealed and set forth upon all who have endured valiantly for the gospel of Jesus Christ.
30 And also, if there be bounds set to the heavens or to the seas, or to the dry land, or to the sun, moon, or stars
31 All the times of their revolutions, all the appointed days, months, and years, and all the days of their days, months, and years, and all their glories, laws, and set times, shall be revealed in the days of the dispensation of the fulness of times
32 According to that which was ordained in the midst of the Council of the Eternal God of all other gods before this world was, that should be reserved unto the finishing and the end thereof, when every man shall enter into his eternal presence and into his immortal rest.
Romans 8
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
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BTW my knowledge and counsel comes from the Lord Comforter
John 14
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15 ¶ If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
John 15
26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
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I know these things are hard for many of you that is why many try to marginalized even though His word is Straightforward.
Does it bother you that your God is descended from a fictional character? (Luke 3:38)
There is nothing new under the sun...
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