Is Mormonism Christian? by Late Richard John Neuhaus

November 24, 2009

[Elsie]

[reaganaut]

To gain salvation, men must repent and keep the commandments, be born again, cleanse their garments through the blood of Christ, be humble and strip themselves from pride and envy, and do the works of righteousness

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No point quoting the BoM to this crowd, we all know it is a fraud.

And again, you are incorrect, having it completely backwards, dear. In order to gain salvation (return to the presence of God the Father), one must accept the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on their behalf. THAT is what being “born again” means.

Repentance, baptism, works are not IN ORDER TO BE SAVED. Christians do these things BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY SAVED from spiritual death and Hell.

Grace plus ANYTHING is no longer grace.

Romans 10:9-13 says:

9That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.

11As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”e

12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,

13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Notice it does not say “plus temple rituals, tithing, callings, membership in the Mormon church, priesthoods, or even baptism.

Romans 11:6 says:

And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

Please resty, read your Bible In context and your eyes will be opened to its truth

[Elsie]

[metmom]

There is only One God who is the Creator of all the rest who are small “g” many will not qualify to be joint heirs with the Savior the only begotten Son of Jesus Christ!

You know, resty, that line about becoming *gods* (small *g*) is the same one that Satan used to deceive Adam and Eve into sinning.

Genesis 3: 4 & 5And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

I am just astounded that Satan is STILL getting mileage out of that lie.

[Godzilla]

To gain salvation, men must repent and keep the commandments, be born again, cleanse their garments through the blood of Christ, be humble and strip themselves from pride and envy, and do the works of righteousness

Sounds like resty is talking about that 'filthy rag' stuff again. Isa 64:6* But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Really resty, do the works of righteousness called menstrual cloths by God

[restornu]

Wow. Just wow. That is just pure blasphemy! We are not gods with a small “g”, nor will we ever be gods in ANY form. We are “joint heirs”, which means we are ADOPTED children of God, by faith in His son. As adopted children, we, like Jesus, will be allowed into God the Father’s presence. That is ALL that means.

you are all emotional and crazed...

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John 10

33. The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35. If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

36. Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

[Melian]

“I am thinking along the lines of a second grade manners class.... “

Oh, be careful, dear. There are some posters on this thread don’t want to hear about silly things like good manners. They get really upset if you suggest it’s better to have good manners. It’s very entertaining.

[Tennessee Nana]

The Book of Mormon contains many plain and precious truths that have been removed from the Bible.
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Now let’s look at this statement...

Thereis some ring of truth to it...

some truth was removed from the Bible and plagurized into Joey’s poorly written fairy tale...

In fact whole passages of Isaiah and some of the Gospels are found in the bom...copied word for word...you could say “many”

in some cases mixed up, but still recognizable...

But as for anything Joey Smith himself wrote...

No there is no truth to it...

It is just plain old hogwash and the omnly thing precious is the gold he conned people out of to buy his “testiment of another jesus...

as for “clarifies and unveil many things in the Bible that was not noticed or understood before.” I read the Bible cover to cover for years before I saw a and there was nothing i didnt notice and nothing i didnt understand..

Gollies nana without any help from the bom ???

yeppers...

As to “the bom so called “supportsd” the Bible” ,...how god must laugh at that one...

God’s words need to be verified by mere man ??? Are you kidding ???

The only way that “support” might works is by the contrast betwen the truth of the Bible and the glaring lies of the bom...

And the literature value...while the Bible is great literature, the bom is worse than those dumb Twilight series...and just as useless...

“unveil many things in the Bible that was not noticed or understood before.”

It would be cleared up in a jiffy IF YOU OPENED THE BIBLE UP AND READ IT..

“The Book of Mormon supports the Bible.”

With 13 of those there boms, a broken table would be supported...

other than that, the Boy Scouts could use it to start their campfires...

[Melian]

Well, thank you!

I love being Catholic.

Fun thread, isn’t it? ;o]

[Tennessee Nana]

Awwwwwwwwww

Sweet kitteh...

:)

[Tennessee Nana]

You mean it isn’t a CHURCH?
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Nope, Jesus didnt say it was...so its not a church..

He said to Resty, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man or woman comes to the Father except by ME” John 14:6

[Tennessee Nana]

Anyone who wants a Church that is steeped in history, deep, glorious, mysterious, powerful, orthodox, loving and humble at the same time (kind of like Christ Himself!)
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Good grief, kid...

What have you been drinking ???

The history of the Catholic Church is also murder and bloodshed and the burning of so called heretics at the stake and some gruesome torture on the side...

[Tennessee Nana]

You have a short bus pupil there...

[Tennessee Nana]

Hi bert ...

:)

[reaganaut]

accurate assessment, E.

[reaganaut]

try reading the REAL scriptures, you know...the BIBLE, the one given by God?

Not the other fairy tales SLC throws at you.

And feel free to come back to answer my questions.

(crickets)

[metmom]

FOTFLOL!!!!!

[Godzilla]

ouch!

[reaganaut]

Resty vying to be an apostle or prophet!?!?!?!?

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Well since they know better than God (they keep changing His doctrines), then yeah, it looks like.

[reaganaut]

You are so funny yet it is all boring to me got better things to do!

Want to read my scriptures toot-a-loo...

Have fun entertaining yourself!:)

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Translation: Resty is taking her toys and going home!