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Is Mormonism Christian? by Late Richard John Neuhaus
November 24, 2009

Posted on 11/24/2009 1:46:39 PM PST by Steelfish

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To: Godzilla; Buck W.
Since YOU already agree that the measurements used are NOT accurate, it is invalid for you to CLAIM that the bible is lying here.

Buck= pwned.

Notice again, that Buck thinks that he's never wrong, in spite of the fact that he can't put together a logical, coherent, well reasoned argument?

Looks like that godhood thing is going to his head.

Buck, if you are indeed involved in some scientific endeavor, which I highly doubt as you've NEVER answered anyone's inquiries that I've ever seen, I certainly hope that nobody's life depends on your judgment and problem solving capabilities.

881 posted on 11/28/2009 5:17:53 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Godzilla; Buck W.
Me neither because I understand the principles involved and not the fables you use to write the scriptures off with.

Such is the outcome when you really want to find some way to discredit Scripture and twist it to fit your worldview.

You find a way, as Buck has so adequately demonstrated.

882 posted on 11/28/2009 5:20:02 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Godzilla; restornu

Doesn’t seem that way to me resty, just putting the cookies down for all to see - but then you answer is easier than to REALLY answer the questions eh?

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Well, either she cannot answer them OR she is afraid of giving out “meat” before “milk” to any lurkers who might be interested in the LDS.

I was once told, when I was LDS and at BYU, by Bob Millett, that if we told the truth about all of our doctrines, no one would join.


883 posted on 11/28/2009 5:20:09 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Buck W.

I am not wasting my time going through God knows how much of your posting history looking for fables and fairy tales.


884 posted on 11/28/2009 5:21:18 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Buck W.; Godzilla
You continue to make my point for me. A scientist who’s afraid of science is no scientist.

Likewise, someone who claims to be a Christian who's afraid of the Bible is no Christian.

885 posted on 11/28/2009 5:22:27 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; restornu

Jesus said to Resty, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life., No man or woman comes to the Father except by ME”

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You mean it isn’t a CHURCH?


886 posted on 11/28/2009 5:30:50 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu

But if it is a RESTORATION of the Gospel, then how could it have errors, and how could it’s leaders teach FALSE doctrine?

Still not making sense there.


887 posted on 11/28/2009 5:47:46 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Godzilla; Buck W.
Why am I having visions of this skit, with Buckie in the Black Knight role...


888 posted on 11/28/2009 5:47:59 PM PST by ejonesie22
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To: Buck W.
OK, real slow now...

Oh, I see what your problem is now, I have been going too fast for you.

889 posted on 11/28/2009 5:48:46 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: reaganaut

You are so funny yet it is all boring to me got better things to do!

Want to read my scriptures toot-a-loo...

Have fun entertaining yourself!:)


890 posted on 11/28/2009 5:54:35 PM PST by restornu (Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves! ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: Godzilla; Buck W.

1 Kings 7:23 (New International Bucky Version)

He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring 9.554140127 cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it.


891 posted on 11/28/2009 5:56:53 PM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: Buck W.

i’M GONNA GO IN THE YARD AND EAT worms!


892 posted on 11/28/2009 6:02:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Buck W.

i’M GONNA GO IN THE YARD AND EAT worms!


893 posted on 11/28/2009 6:02:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Buck W.
The biblically-derived value of pi is......?
894 posted on 11/28/2009 6:03:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Buck W.
Perhaps you’ll understand.

Sorry; but my hands are full trying to understand Resty.

You are WAY down on the list.

895 posted on 11/28/2009 6:04:32 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

john 3.14 and Isiah 1589


896 posted on 11/28/2009 6:04:38 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: restornu
To gain salvation, men must repent and keep the commandments...

SATAN; you are a LIAR!

897 posted on 11/28/2009 6:06:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Buck W.; metmom; ejonesie22; Tennessee Nana; Elsie
You continue to make my point for me. A scientist who’s afraid of science is no scientist.

LOL, doubt that the lurkers will agree with you on that point. OTOH, one like you who is ignorant of science will accept pseudoscience arguments against the bible every time. But in this case you are challenged by even reading the context and description of the item. For example:

26. And it was an hand breadth thick, and the brim thereof was wrought like the brim of a cup, with flowers of lilies: it contained two thousand baths.

The brim flared out - so where smart guy was the diameter measured from? Accordingly, where was the circumference measured at? Unless you can specifically show where these precise measurements were taken you claim falls flat on its face. But then pi = 3.14 is an approximation itself isn't it.

So is the rim the same location that the circumference was measured at? (crickets) I typed it real slow for you to follow along this time.

898 posted on 11/28/2009 6:08:10 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: ejonesie22

lol, how appropriate


899 posted on 11/28/2009 6:09:12 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: restornu

Just because it is uncomfortable does not make it only “their opinion”. Pratts works were considered to be scripture long before the D&C was cannonized and voted on (1870’s IIRC).

The leaders either can or cannot lead the church astray. If they cannot, then their official statements should be binding, if they can then they are not “speaking for the Lord”.

It has always bugged me that things that were once considered doctrine of a “restored” church (blacks and the priesthood, wording and oaths of the Temple ceremonies, polygamy; the Adam/God doctrine) can suddenly no longer be binding.

What about all those who died believing they MUST enter polygamy for exaltation or that Adam was God? Do they still get to the CK? Because they accepted what is now considered false doctrine.


900 posted on 11/28/2009 6:09:45 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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