Posted on 11/22/2009 2:05:55 PM PST by JoeProBono
HOUSTON - Chris Hardman won't be insulted if you don't believe him.
After all, not even his fiancee believes in UFOs.
But Hardman swears he has videotaped dozens of extraterrestrial spacecraft over the past year, both here in Houston and in Austin.
"Most of them are triangular in shape or kind of a teardrop," Hardman says.
He posts his videos on his YouTube channel where you can now view 51 clips, including last Saturdays close encounter with what he describes as an alien flying machine that approached within a few hundred feet.
"They're totally silent but this is the one time I could actually hear one, it got so close. It made kind of a humming sound."
MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network, lists 23 reports of UFO sightings over Harris county so far in 2009.
Hardman thinks that number is a gross underestimate, which is why he keeps his camera handy and his YouTube channel busy.
"People should know about it. People should pay more attention to what's going on over their head."
Hardman is not alone in the belief that earth creatures are not alone in the universe. Chickenfoot lead vocalist Sammy Hagar has an alien face depicted on his guitar because he says aliens made contact with him when he was 20 years old. The popular singer and founder of the Cabo Wabo tequila brand also says that aliens downloaded music into his brain.
Ezekiel first chapter....try and figure what someone at that time would think.
Thanks.
Will read it yet again.
SOME AUSTRALIAN CELL PHONE VIDEOS OF ABOVE AVERAGE QUALITY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYzjDmP35Lk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI20DpkxwKk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx560KqbLiw
from:
My Talk with the man in charge of the Air traffic control Center in Albuquerque
he would not like me using his real name we’ll call him Bob... Now Bob a long time friend who once encouraged me to marry one of his daughter. he Doesn’t just work at the Albuquerque control center he’s in charge all the air traffic controllers on his shift... I’ll post a flight map so you can see the size of territory he’s responsible for... look for the section marked ZAB Albuquerque...
Anyway just yesterday I was over at his house, talking about old times, sharing a beer as we watched a game... After all these years of knowing him I finally asked, “Say Bob...With all those fancy radars you got out the center...you ever pick up a UFO”? He took a big gulp of his beer and never taking his eyes off the TV replied, “Everyday...” I know this man well enough to know he was dead serious...watching him I also realized if they reported those there would be a lot fewer air traffic controllers too...
THANKS for posting that.
LUB
I was living in the Phoenix area at the time, plus I know about the area flight paths. San Diego officially complained to the USAF a while back about supersonic flights, which the USAF denied, so San Diego just told them that they didn’t care about the aircraft, but to please take it further off the coast. This stopped the sonic booms.
Sky Harbor airport is very protective of its airspace, which is why about everybody below commercial airline altitude has to take the helicopter corridor up the Verde River to Flagstaff. This includes the National Guard and Reserve, and even when they were making Boeing Apache “black helicopters” at a plant in Mesa.
You can see the aerial view over the Verde in the movie “Blue Thunder”. This gave me no end of amusement, because supposedly the bad guy is throwing a Vietnamese soldier out of a helicopter during the war, but in the background you can see saguaro cactus. I had flown over the Verde many times and recognized the terrain.
Well, anyway, any and all test aircraft and helicopters heading to San Diego from Nevada have to take that route, or it would get the Californians in a snit, and create no end of airspace problems. But this takes them right over Phoenix, considerably North of Sky Harbor, which is fine with them as its runways go East-West.
So it was no surprise this is where the “UFO” showed up. In this case, there were people on the ground filming it from their backyards, and it was obviously an aircraft, though quiet and able to hover. But it had some problem in that it could not horizontally fly, and so was slowly drifting with the breeze. Again, about a half hour before sundown, on a clear day, about 200 feet up, over a hilly suburb of high end houses.
Eventually it drifted out over West Phoenix into the desert and was not seen again. So much for the “Phoenix Lights”.
But then the disinformation campaign hit with both barrels. It was almost fun to watch. They intimidated all the media, a Phoenix city councilman and ex-governor Symington, who actually lived in that neighborhood, to STFU, then launched a media campaign.
The idea was to take all sides to the argument, and let nobody speak who wasn’t part of the campaign. So they brought in some supposed “UFO experts” to sound silly in the head, then got sensible sounding denials from those who dismissed everything. “Nobody saw anything, and it was just a weather balloon, and radar detected nothing, so these are UFO alien kooks talking.”
By creating a cacophony, they figured to drown out anyone who watched it for half an hour. It was all heavily laced with cynicism, sarcasm, criticism, and even a touch of anger at those who insisted they had seen something. One guy with a videotape they tore apart because he had been an alcoholic years before, so obviously he was just a drunk. Ignoring that his video camera was likely not drunk.
But since they wouldn’t show what his video camera had recorded, it was sort of a moot point. About a year or two later, somebody actually did float a balloon with some flares on it, which looked like a balloon with some flares on it. This gave them one last dig, in that “It was obviously just like ‘The Phoenix Lights’.”
Uh, no. The bottom line is that the USAF is supposed to do stuff like this, and they are supposed to keep it secret. So what’s the big deal?, that they are making secret aircraft and keeping them secret from the public?
It’s not E.T. It’s just the guys who may someday bomb Tehran.
New Mexico? I’m not surprised. They are just as busy, or busier with their airspace as is Nevada. They even did one missile test once right at dawn, that left sky trails you could see from Phoenix.
Most of their action I’m guessing would be the Nevada-Texas run, plus White Sands Missile Range, plus who knows what all else. Very heavy traffic, much of it would show up on Albuquerque radar, but is “None of your business”, for their air traffic control.
As far as Nevada goes, when you drive North to Vegas, about any day of the year, aircraft are always flying low over the highway. Once I saw what looked like for semi trucks, shoulder to shoulder, coming towards me on the highway (made my heart go pitter pat), but then they swerved up, and it was a B-52. It still rattled some of the bolts out of my car.
Busy skies. Oh yes, New Mexico also gets a lot of action from Tucson (Davis-Montham AB), and Yuma (Marine Air Corps).
Thanks for your substantive responses.
BTW, I ran the Verde river with a college friend about 1968. Loved it. Dad et al live in Cottonwood.
I’ve talked at length with some serious researchers into the “Phoenix lights.”
Sorry, but your explanation may fit a part of the event but not the main event.
The craft larger than a mile long traveled from at least up around Kingman down to Tucson . . . rather slowly.
The airline pilot flying his private plane ABOVE and a bit to the side of the large UFO said he could have landed HIS AIRLINER ON TOP OF THE UFO.
The MD, I think on South mountain filming it in color 35mm movie film supported the size estimates.
etc. etc.
I would not argue that we have our fleet of such as my relative asserted(s).
More than 10,000 witnesses saw the large craft. THEY knew it was not flares etc.
GIVEN YOUR . . . AWARENESS . . . would you claim there are NO “critters” and ONLY our man-made craft?
That’s not my understanding, BTW.
There are both.
Here’s a very interesting video. If anyone can translate key Spanish assertions, that would be great:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread521985/pg1
UFO PING LIST PING
Frescos throughout Europe which reveal the appearance of space ships in the skies including this painting of 'The Crucifixion' - painted in 1350. It seems to depict a small human looking man looking over his shoulder - at another UFO as if in pursuit - as he flies across the sky in what is clearly a space ship. The leading craft is decorated with two twinkling stars, one reminiscent of national insignia on modern aircraft. This paintng hangs above the altar at the Visoki Decani Monestary in Kosovo, Yugoslavia.
Quite so.
I’ve been asserting such hereon for more than 10 years.
Some of the rabid Vatican co-hort clique take horrifically viscious exception to such assertions, however.
Thankfully, they happen to also be those that show the least understanding, the least (if any) knowledge, the least perceptiveness and the least logic of posters hereon.
Thankfully, some FREEPERS have been awakened to the globalists and their satanic fallen angel overlords in such matters.
We can largely thank OThuga for that.
I hadn’t heard any of that stuff. All the sightings I heard about at the time were in Clearview Hills to what at the time was called Squaw Peak, West of Paradise Valley. At the time, it was described as being “V” shaped, bigger than a bomber, and you could see the aircraft running lights.
If that was the case, you couldn’t have seen much of anything from South Mountain.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/AZ%20republic%20phoenix%20lights.jpg
The media really turned vicious against those who reported it. While the local TV and Arizona Republic were dismissive, the Phoenix New Times really railed at them.
Quite so.
And the City Councilwoman who insisted on an investigation was treated quite shabbily.
And the 911 etc. call center staffs were ordered to say there weren’t many calls, when their lines were flooded for many hours and IIRC, mid level supervisors said later that there HAD TO BE AT LEAST 10,000 calls.
Folks under the massive craft saw major portions of the sky blotted out. Those above the massive craft saw a huge portion of the city lights blotted out.
The flares hoax was readily disproven by the MD and his 35mm color film . . . as well as just from watching.
1. The flares were a whole different color signature.
2. The flares occurred AFTER the incident was well past in Phoenix.
3. The flares were not equidistant.
4. The flares did not remain stationary with respect to one another.
5. The flares, as flares do, extinguished DIFFERENTLY as they burned out at different rates.
IIRC, the massive craft was obviously not a blimp according to those with the best view of it. Also, IIRC, it was seen at some points along the long trek . . . to move much faster than blimps can do.
There’s a Real Estate broker who’s taken it upon himself to research it extensively and who has the resources to do so. His findings were quite fascinating.
My Spanish is a bit rusty, however I understood most of it on the first go... key points from my translation:
Pedro saw a pyramid shaped object (what the newsman described.)Pedro was with friends and a boy saw it first and shouted "Mira, mira!" (Look, look) - they looked up at the sky and all saw it...
The newsman asked how many people saw it.
Pedro said, 6 people with 4 cameras all saw and filmed it.The reporter on the scene told the precise time... Thursday, May 22nd at 5:14 p.m. and he was broadcasting from the home of Pedro Hernandez - one of the folks who observed the UFO.
Reporter: How many observers?
Pedro: Six
Reporter: ...and all saw the same thing?
Pedro: Yes, of course, of course...... They went on to describe three lights in a 3-dimensional pyramid shape. Said they were very high in the sky.
The reporter asked if the lights had any particular color...
Pedro said, No, they were white lights... perhaps with a little red tinge...I believe that these folks are sincere and they all really observed SOMETHING...
Easy enough to match up the four video cameras' action to see if they all got the same thing or not.
I separate the event into two parts. The first was during the event, with eyewitness accounts. The second was when the disinformation campaign began in earnest.
The only information I can take at face value happened during the first part, because the disinformation campaign pulled out all the stops to obfuscate what had happened.
Here is a very useful list of the 25 most effective disinformation techniques:
http://www.masternewmedia.org/how-to-deceive-lie-and-spread-disinformation-a-guide/
(read down to the “about the author” section.)
EXCELLENT LINK AND ARTICLE. THANKS.
Certainly the disinfo idiots on FR—particularly on the UFO threads but also a lot on the END TIMES threads—tend to use the following ad nauseum:
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http://www.masternewmedia.org/how-to-deceive-lie-and-spread-disinformation-a-guide/
They will demand that those presenting arguments or concepts back everything up with the same level of expertise as a professor, researcher, or investigative writer. Anything less renders any discussion meaningless and unworthy in their opinion, and anyone who disagrees is obviously stupid - and they generally put it in exactly those terms.
Ignore Proof Presented, Demand Impossible Proofs
This is perhaps a variant of the ‘play dumb’ rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.)
In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required of you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.
[Another favorites are]:
Use a Straw Man
Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad.
Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
Sidetrack Opponents With Name Calling and Ridicule
This is also known as the primary ‘attack the messenger’ ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach.
Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as ‘kooks’, ‘right-wing’, ‘liberal’, ‘left-wing’, ‘terrorists’, ‘conspiracy buffs’, ‘radicals’, ‘militia’, ‘racists’, ‘religious fanatics’, ‘sexual deviates’, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
Hit and Run
In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning - simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent’s viewpoint.
Demand Complete Solutions
Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for “Associate Opponent Charges With Old News”.
Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents
If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent.
Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how ‘sensitive they are to criticism.’
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IMPORTANT STUFF. THANKS BIG.
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