Whoever she is, she did great. "PC is the problem" "If evidence leads us to a Muslim, then it leads to a Muslim"
Posted on 11/19/2009 8:03:55 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight
http://c-span.org/Watch/Media/2009/11/19/HP/R/26172/congressional+investigation+into+Fort+Hood+Shooting.aspx
Thanks for the live thread - I’ve been watching on FoxNews.com.
Great expert witnesses testifying.
Am I the only one watching?
Cable deprived...Help....
And my FoxNews feed just died.
A quick and dirty: The hearing was called to order by Sen Lieberman and Sen Collins. They’ve had 5 expert witnesses so far: General John Keane; Fran Townsend, Mitchell Silver, Mr. Something Zarate and Brian Jenkins.
A Q&A session is to follow.
They’ve been laying out the issues and phases of radicalization of homegrown terror plots.
In 2009 8 plots have been discovered here in the US and 2 actual attacks have happened.
Off to try and get hooked up again!
Back up and running.
Since you’re cable deprived you might want to read this from Bloomberg about the hearings so far.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aEO2eVuq9XEI
Mr Zarate’s name is Juan ( not something)
Now, Susan Collins is asking Fran Townsend about the role First Amendment rights concerns - she is asking about the restrictions in FISA and whether they preclude investigating individuals.
FT: To the extent that there may have been concern about first amendment rights - there were other factors that could have formed the basis for further inquiry.
She goes onto cite the role of political correctness and the need to pursue the facts where they lead them.
All members of the JTTF have a responsibility to follow up and share info with Law enforcement per Fran Townsend.
JTTF = joint terrorism task force.
Senator Carper up now.
Whoever she is, she did great. "PC is the problem" "If evidence leads us to a Muslim, then it leads to a Muslim"
Now, Mr. Zarate is discussing the Muslim Public Affairs Council statement on Ft Hood.
You can read that statement here.
BTW - in my view Carper is a dhimmidiot.
Now they’re talking about the need for the cooperation of moderate Muslims, oftentimes moderate muslims are reluctant to speak out because of Muslim intimidation.
Still playing footsie with the Moderates, IOW.
At the end of the day it’s going to be the moderate members of Muslim community itself that will delegitimize the radicals.
There’s evidence of a great deal of quiet activity on the part of Muslims...
Carper wants to know what they should be doing as legislators.
- Legal authorities and resources to investigate domestically.
That’s Fran Townsend and she’s great.
John McCain up now.
DO you believe the attack on ft hood was a terror attack?
Replies:
Yes.
Yes but was it an individual or larger conspiracy.
No comment from the NYPD, It certainly looks like an act of terror.
Yes, but we’re going to get him on an ordinary crime and that’s good enough. (not for me it’s not)
John McCain citing the many red flags that preceded the Ft Hood attack.
Do you think political correctness that these dots were nor picked up?
Replies:
Yes, absolutely. That and his role as a psychiatrist who operated pretty much on his own in sessions with individuals. No specific guidelines exist on dealing with jihadist extremism in the military. Guidelines are needed.
It shouldn’t have to be an act of moral courage for a soldier to report it should be an obligation. If there are guidelines it will make it one.
Is that hand sanitizer on the dais there between John McCain and Sen Pryor.
FT: There was a reluctance to proceed and follow the facts.
Now Silber - I think, is disagreeing and saying the reluctance to pursue the inquiry it was more a function of his being a psychiatrist than being a function of political correctness.
The attitudes would have been picked up much quicker in a combat unit than it would have been an issue of his religion.
Sen Lieberman: Religion should not be a cover for illegal activity.
FT: Is breaking it down. The JTTF sent it to the DCIS but the DCIS was prohibited from sharing with the DOD by FISA regs without permission - permission is easy to get but evidently the DCIS didn’t think it was that big of deal and didn’t ask for it.
It’s not clear that the Walter Reed personnel information ever made it into his file - if it did - it didn’t make it to the people who needed to see it.
I watched her this weekend on one of the cable news shows and she was EXCELLENT! Very well spoken and well informed.
Senator Ensign was just up - Sen Lieberman - lone wolf cases are the hardest and the concerns about first amendment rights make it even harder.
Senator Levin up now: Senate Armed forces committee investigation focused on the military - (except they’ve cancelled it for now because of Obama’s request.)
He’s all about not compromising the criminal investigation into the Ft Hood attack.
Levin holds up the rules about communications between groups. HUGE file. Hmmm, Levin not too horrible...yet.
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/11345
On Dec. 23, 2008, days after he said Hasan first e-mailed him, Aulaqi also posted online words encouraging attacks on U.S. soldiers, writing: “The bullets of the fighters of Afghanistan and Iraq are a reflection of the feelings of the Muslims towards America,” according to the NEFA Foundation, a private South Carolina group that monitors extremist Web sites.
"Pat Robertson claiming Muslims are not a true religion, helps the fanatical Muslims doesn't it?"
WTF!!!!How is Pat Robertson involved with hassan?????
Levin is an ass!
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